Russia has invaded Ukraine - Page 240

Carth · 29-11-2025, 15:07

It usually ends up with who can make the most money from the suffering of others.

I'm sure there will be a queue to grab mineral rights and construction contracts, and obviously some weapons/defence plans in case it kicks off again.

thenry · Today, 18:06

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"There is only one person in the whole world who was able to break the deadlock when it comes to the war in Ukraine, and that is the American president, Donald J. Trump - and he did."

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-w...#liveblog-body

Apparently he's a fool

and this horses mouth piece alongside his allies were warmongering. Make your mind up. You might offend somebody

**Hugh** · Today, 18:44

"Break the deadlock"?

Pretty sure Russia is still bombing and killing Ukrainians…

**Chris** · Today, 20:32

That’s what the Americans call ‘blowing smoke up his ass’.

In the real world it is (hopefully) clear that Trump is trying to treat this as a property deal, with kickbacks for his ~~handler~~ pal Vlad and lucrative contracts for whichever American companies his bounteous grace bestows them upon.

Steve Witkoff is too stupid to see he’s being played for time, however, and the likelihood is that Putin thinks he’s doing better on the battlefield than he is, because he lives in a bunker surrounded by generals who will only tell him what he wants to hear.

pip08456 · Today, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Chris

That’s what the Americans call ‘blowing smoke up his ass’.

In the real world it is (hopefully) clear that Trump is trying to treat this as a property deal, with kickbacks for his ~~handler~~ pal Vlad and lucrative contracts for whichever American companies his bounteous grace bestows them upon.

Steve Witkoff is too stupid to see he’s being played for time, however, and the likelihood is that Putin thinks he’s doing better on the battlefield than he is, because he lives in a bunker surrounded by generals who will only tell him what he wants to hear.

Who gives a toss what Trump wants, or Putin or the EU? What about the Ukrainian people, who's asking them?

55% of Ukrainians object to terratorial concessions to achieve peace (https://kyivindependent.com/55-of-uk...ce-poll-finds/)

The armed forces (not the commanders)have said they will carry on fighting if the peace deal is not acceptable to them.

I posted on here months ago that Ukraine ( it's people )would never give up.
They would rather go out fighting than anything less than Russia withdrawing from the terratory.

Before you go negotiating for someone, get to know them first. If Putin doesn't withdraw then thay will be left with a guerilla war for years to come.
Ukraine is not just fighing for thier independence and terratory but also their entire identity (as Ukrainians) and existance.

Make of my post what you will.

thenry · Today, 21:19

I care. Seeing as our own resources are being aided in Ukraine. May be withdrawing support is logical so Russia can eat Ukraine up as it should have done so by now.

OLD BOY · Today, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Hugh

"Break the deadlock"?

Pretty sure Russia is still bombing and killing Ukrainians…

At least they are talking.

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Originally Posted by thenry

I care. Seeing as our own resources are being aided in Ukraine. May be withdrawing support is logical so Russia can eat Ukraine up as it should have done so by now.

What about the Ukrainian people? Don’t they count for anything? Their country has been invaded, so why should they have to concede anything at the bequest of anyone?

pip08456 · Today, 21:27

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Originally Posted by thenry

I care. Seeing as our own resources are being aided in Ukraine. May be withdrawing support is logical so Russia can eat Ukraine up as it should have done so by now.

If Russia couldn't "eat up Ukrain" by now, why sould it be handed to them on a plate? As regards your own resources it has nithing to do with the rest of the country or me.

thenry · Today, 21:29

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What about the Ukrainian people? Don’t they count for anything? Their country has been invaded, so why should they have to concede anything at the bequest of anyone?

They shouldn't have got themselves in the situation in the first place. Excuse me for not crying for Ukraine.

OLD BOY · Today, 21:30

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Originally Posted by thenry

They shouldn't have got themselves in the situation in the first place. Excuse me for not crying for Ukraine.

What are you trying to say? It was Russia who invaded Ukraine. How does that make Ukraine the guilty party?

thenry · Today, 21:33

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Originally Posted by pip08456

If Russia couldn't "eat up Ukrain" by now, why sould it be handed to them on a plate? As regards your own resources it has nithing to do with the rest of the country or me.

The only plate being used is the rest of the worlds aid to Ukraine.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What are you trying to say? It was Russia who invaded Ukraine. How does that make Ukraine the guilty party?

Russia had its reasons.

**Hugh** · Today, 21:37

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

At least they are talking.

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What about the Ukrainian people? Don’t they count for anything? Their country has been invaded, so why should they have to concede anything at the bequest of anyone?

No, they are telling Ukraine, and bending over to the Russians

thenry · Today, 21:40

Why don't you get over there then and change everything

Customized for Ukraine. Of the willing my arse.

**Paul** · Today, 21:43

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Originally Posted by thenry

Russia had its reasons.

Such as ?

(Dont forget to ask Putin what your reply should be).

**Hugh** · Today, 21:43

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Originally Posted by thenry

Why don't you get over there then and change everything

Customized for Ukraine. Of the willing my arse.

OK, Vatnik…