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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by Paul
"Overwhelmingly" does not mean all/completely, and is not an excuse to ignore it.
A man may also not be safe around a woman (or another man).
Aside from that, a woman may not be safe around another woman either.
This constant focus on women (or girls) only needs to stop.
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But it isn’t a constant focus on women only. This is one initiative in a parliament that will last 5 years and pass innumerable bills and other measures. Having said that, if one thing is a bigger problem than another, there shouldn’t be any problem with giving a higher profile to attempts to address it. Nothing in these measures says male-on-male or female-on-male violence isn’t a thing. Just that violence against women is more of a thing and needs more attention.
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26-11-2025, 22:45
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by Chris
But it isn’t a constant focus on women only.
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Well thats your view, I disagree.
I have long ago lost count of the number of articles that bang on about Women, Girls & Misogyny, while none about Men, Boys or Misandry. In fact its so rare I had to look it up - as I could not remember the exact word.
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by Paul
Well thats your view, I disagree.
I have long ago lost count of the number of articles that bang on about Women, Girls & Misogyny, while none about Men, Boys or Misandry. In fact its so rare I had to look it up - as I could not remember the exact word.
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There’s a reason for that!
If you think for one moment that men have anything like as much trouble as women do in these matters, where have you been?
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And that is because as usual people ignore Men being abused, assaulted etc and just say "he must have done something to deserve it".
How many times are women penalised for slapping a man? I will tell you it's basically never, but a bloke does it and he is either socially or criminally penalised.
How many times does a women make comments about a blokes appearance, finances etc and nothing get's said, but a man does it and it's socially and criminally penalised.
Crimes against men are rarely reported or recorded when a woman commits them, police laugh at blokes for reporting it, blokes and women laugh at blokes when they report it, so blokes just don't bother anymore.
If all the crimes were reported those numbers would switch dramatically but let's keep saying that Women and Girls are the only ones that need protecting.
As for the OSA, if they are going to try and implement new features to protect Women and Girls, well they better make sure that Women and Girls cannot talk to other Women and Girls since they are the main ones who abuse Women and Girls online!
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I agree that men also need protection. Both sexes experience these problems, but women are the main victims on the whole.
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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... where have you been?
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On planet Earth, what planet are you on ?
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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I agree that men also need protection. Both sexes experience these problems, but women are the main victims on the whole.
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No they are not, not if you look at the figures.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...stem-2023-html
From that:
"In 2022/23, there were 590 homicides reported in the Home Office Homicide Index; 71% of which were males and 29% females." tell me how is saying that women are the main victims??
It then carries on "Females were the victim in 59% of homicides acquainted with the suspect, whereas in cases where victim was male 41% were acquainted with the suspect."
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" Excluding fraud and computer misuse, females were significantly less likely of being a victim of personal crime than males."
And here is the problem, if Men are not reporting crimes against them because they get laughed at which happens all the time, the crimes committed to them are belittled which happens on a daily basis, why the hell are men going to report that their misses has just slapped them round the head for looking in the general direction of another women, I saw this twice yesterday when I took my mum shopping, or report that their partner is verbally abusing them based of the new rules, again I saw this yesterday multiple times, not once though did I see a man hit a women, a man verbally abuse a women, a man financially control a women, but yes they need more protection, let's just keep giving women more and more protections and ways to make men out to be the bad person so they cannot be held responsible for their actions!
Remember as it is currently Women are not prosecuted or penalised as much as men for commiting crimes, they don't get the same sentences when they are prosecuted, and if children are involved the mother will 99% of the times avoid prison because "it would do harm to the children" meanwhile a bloke will always 99% of the times go to prison and the children will be put in foster care!
I would love to live in the world that some of you live in, must be so nice to never experience or see any abuse.
Back on topic
Now we have American states banning VPN's, we have Australia banning social media for under 16's, only way to do that is by forcing national id's to be used thereby exposing all users to identity theft, because we all know the governments are incapable of keeping data secure and the EU are looking to follow in Australia's footsteps, no doubt the UK is looking at it all as well.
Rumours are Germany is looking apparently at a complete ban on social media full stop, cannot see that being true but how many times have some of these rumours turned out to be true.
There are now rumours online that the Government is considering going to all VPN providers, demanding the IP's of all servers, then apparently going to all ISP's and telling them to block all traffic to and from those servers as well as banning them from accepting users from the UK.
Next rumour is apparently all mobile phone companies such as EE, O2, Giff Gaff, Lebara etc etc will be required to implement a system to allow video calls to be made so that if someone buys a new sim card from a petrol station etc, they won't be able to register it until they have done a video call with said provider and information recorded so that "kids can be kept safe from burner sims".
I have said it before and I will say it again, if all this comes true, even North Korea will look better and have more freedom than this hell hole!
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Today, 21:24
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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On planet Earth, what planet are you on ?
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I’m firmly on Earth. Maybe you’re in a different dimension where left is right.
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Today, 21:27
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I’m firmly on Earth. Maybe you’re in a different dimension where left is right.
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Ah, you're on the mirror earth. That explains a lot.
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