Starmer’s chronicles

[Carth]

The extra money stolen from . . err . . paid by us, is apparently to pay for that new Nuclear Power station being built . . isn't it?


. . which will be good news for those still alive when it's finished, in 35 yrs time and 7x over budget

[Sirius]

OMG i used to go to the circus to watch the clowns, now i can sit at home and watch the budget. Labour the only ship sinking from the top.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Carth

The extra money stolen from . . err . . paid by us, is apparently to pay for that new Nuclear Power station being built . . isn't it?


. . which will be good news for those still alive when it's finished, in 35 yrs time and 7x over budget

£150 off your energy bill, thanks be to Rachel

Taxes abolished on Bingo too. Den will be pleased

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Sirius

OMG i used to go to the circus to watch the clowns, now i can sit at home and watch the budget. Labour the only ship sinking from the top.

Kemi was good, though. Pity that's a sinking ship too.

[mrmistoffelees]

After today, if I was asked to vote in a GE tomorrow I’d be voting Tory.

‘I’m asking ordinary people to pay more’ just isn’t acceptable. Ordinary people shouldn’t be paying more to account for woeful financial mismanagement and to support the percentage of people that won’t contribute

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

£150 off your energy bill, thanks be to Rachel

I read somewhere that it was a saving of £88, but it probably depends on how many TV's, tumble driers, electric blankets, set top boxes, laptops you have . . . and how often you charge the (soon to be) compulsory electric vehicle

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

After today, if I was asked to vote in a GE tomorrow I’d be voting Tory.

‘I’m asking ordinary people to pay more’ just isn’t acceptable. Ordinary people shouldn’t be paying more to account for woeful financial mismanagement and to support the percentage of people that won’t contribute

It was the Tories that were responsible for the debt and the situation we're in ! The Govt for 14 years, not the ones just for the last 14 months. If they had won the last GE they'd have to do the same. Cutting NI as a pre election bribe , was a disgrace that we couldnt afford and didnt work. Just one example their financial mismanagement.

Remember Liz and Boris.....

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Originally Posted by Carth

I read somewhere that it was a saving of £88, but it probably depends on how many TV's, tumble driers, electric blankets, set top boxes, laptops you have . . . and how often you charge the (soon to be) compulsory electric vehicle

And you still have the triple lock, increased cash isa allowance. Pensioners never had it so good
However taking kids out of poverty gets everyone booing!

[Carth]

haha, that 'triple lock' will soon see even the poorest pensioners paying tax.
I know it won't be much, but 'indian giver' seems the apt phrase here.

They'll be taxing unemployed and disability benefits next

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

£150 off your energy bill, thanks be to Rachel

Labour promised a reduction of £300, and bills have risen since they took over.

So I won’t exactly be cracking out the bubbly.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Carth

haha, that 'triple lock' will soon see even the poorest pensioners paying tax.
I know it won't be much, but 'indian giver' seems the apt phrase here.

They'll be taxing unemployed and disability benefits next

Well freeze the state pension, and you won't have to worry about tax . Deal? Can't have it all ways .

Originally Posted by Carth

haha, that 'triple lock' will soon see even the poorest pensioners paying tax.

Not until 2027.
Next year the (new) pension goes up to £12,548, while the tax allowance is £12,570, so it will still be just under.
Even in 2027, its only going to go slightly over the limit, so the tax to be paid will be small (less than £100 per year).

[Pierre]

It wasn’t great, wasn’t terrible either. My pay rise next year will be mostly wiped out by tax.

It was a budget for the welfare class, but then again what else would you expect from a socialist Labour government.

Wealth distribution, but not take from the rich and give to the poor.

Take from the slightly better off from the poor and give to the welfare class, which includes career scroungers and immigrants that have contributed zip to the economy.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Mr K

It was the Tories that were responsible for the debt and the situation we're in ! The Govt for 14 years, not the ones just for the last 14 months. If they had won the last GE they'd have to do the same. Cutting NI as a pre election bribe , was a disgrace that we couldnt afford and didnt work. Just one example their financial mismanagement.

Remember Liz and Boris.....

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And you still have the triple lock, increased cash isa allowance. Pensioners never had it so good
However taking kids out of poverty gets everyone booing!

Sorry, but Labour are complicit in this as well it’s not ALL the tories fault. Labour have made a crap situation even crapper

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Originally Posted by Pierre

It wasn’t great, wasn’t terrible either. My pay rise next year will be mostly wiped out by tax.

It was a budget for the welfare class, but then again what else would you expect from a socialist Labour government.

Wealth distribution, but not take from the rich and give to the poor.

Take from the slightly better off from the poor and give to the welfare class, which includes career scroungers and immigrants that have contributed zip to the economy.

Pretty much agree on this apart from the immigrants piece , that spending is relatively small imho in the grand scheme of things

I have a major issue with the career scroungers however.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by thenry

SkyNews report energy costs to rise despite wholesale costs going down. Perfect timing for Reeves from Halifax to intervene

Current domestic prices are not set by current wholesale prices. The energy is "bought" before now.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

The fallacy of our energy policy.

Milliband promised to reduce bills by £300 when elected, by current prices that will need to be around £450 now

It’s a target and promise he can’t meet, another broken promise by Labour.

By the end of this term god knows what it will be, it won’t go down that’s for sure.

Due to the U.K. energy pricing structure cheap electricity is not passed onto the consumer……..so what’s the point?

Part of the reduction in energy bills was to be by insulation. Not everybody needs further insulation, so their bills won't be lowered because of it.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

It was the Tories that were responsible for the debt and the situation we're in ! The Govt for 14 years, not the ones just for the last 14 months. If they had won the last GE they'd have to do the same. Cutting NI as a pre election bribe , was a disgrace that we couldnt afford and didnt work. Just one example their financial mismanagement.

Remember Liz and Boris.....

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And you still have the triple lock, increased cash isa allowance. Pensioners never had it so good
However taking kids out of poverty gets everyone booing!

The deficit was going down, before covid, energy prices, and cost-of-living came along. Without the previous "austerity" or if Labour won in 2010, UK finances would be a lot worse now.

Chipping at or taking away all the incentives to save, or build up your pension, what complete muppets.

* ISA Limit reducing to 12,000
* Tax on interest rising higher than other income.
* Pension contributions above £2,000 a year made via salary sacrifice will be subject to National Insurance.