TV Licence “Unenforceable”?

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Chris

Nope, that’s not how it works. You don’t make a claim then ask someone to prove the negative. You believe something, onus is on you to prove it. If you can’t offer reasons for what you believe, I call BS. Simples.

Don't see a claim , but perhaps my grasp of English is equal to that of bbc reporters. Today one said that a street was submerged. Pictures showed a road that a toddler could splash in

Originally Posted by Itshim

Don't see a claim , but perhaps my grasp of English is equal to that of bbc reporters. Today one said that a street was submerged. Pictures showed a road that a toddler could splash in

Here, for the visually impaired:



I get that you don’t want to back up your bog-standard opinions with anything so trivial as facts, and that’s your right. Just don’t expect to be taken seriously on a discussion forum

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Chris

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I get that you don’t want to back up your bog-standard opinions with anything so trivial as facts, and that’s your right. Just don’t expect to be taken seriously on a discussion forum

Sorry don't see it it was a question not a statement , but you read as you choose , just please don't tell what I was saying.


For the record here is my opinion ( for the record it's an opinion not anything else) left leaning - BBC , CNN , right leaning GB news . FOX . down the middle Sky news itv news.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Sorry don't see it it was a question not a statement , but you read as you choose , just please don't tell what I was saying

The shocked face clearly show you find it mad that Chris does not which clearly means you do so not a question at all

[thenry]

The BBC lost more than £1billion last year as a record one in eight households refused to pay the licence fee.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-fee-bias.html

A billion how do they enforce the license fee other than voluntary payment(s)

Originally Posted by thenry

A billion how do they enforce the license fee other than voluntary payment(s)

TV licence evasion is still a criminal offence in the UK. However all laws rely on voluntary agreement on the part of the population to be bound by them because the courts couldn’t hear all the cases if everyone decided to simply ignore the law. Generally, a healthy society agrees that it is better for everyone if everyone obeys.

That tends to fall apart when laws are seen as unjust. The extremely high rate of non-payment suggests we’re getting to a point where people think the fee is unfair in sufficient numbers that it is beyond impossible to prosecute them.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Chris

TV licence evasion is still a criminal offence in the UK. However all laws rely on voluntary agreement on the part of the population to be bound by them because the courts couldn’t hear all the cases if everyone decided to simply ignore the law. Generally, a healthy society agrees that it is better for everyone if everyone obeys.

That tends to fall apart when laws are seen as unjust. The extremely high rate of non-payment suggests we’re getting to a point where people think the fee is unfair in sufficient numbers that it is beyond impossible to prosecute them.

Evasion is easy, really. You just say you only watch recorded stuff on the streamers. How would they know if you watched live TV?

The TV licence should be abolished in favour of a subscription service, but with a free channel funded by advertising devoted to PSB programming. Why should those who don’t watch it pay for it? The BBC is not an essential service.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

"the balance right" being more in agreement and supporting your views, I suppose?

No, I expect balance, not bias.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Evasion is easy, really. You just say you only watch recorded stuff on the streamers. How would they know if you watched live TV?

The TV licence should be abolished in favour of a subscription service, but with a free channel funded by advertising devoted to PSB programming. Why should those who don’t watch it pay for it? The BBC is not an essential service.
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They've already ruled out advertising and we need a public service broadcaster - it is an essential service ( tv and radio). Its more likely to be an extra tax on streaming/broadband services. We' ll pay one way or another.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Evasion is easy, really. You just say you only watch recorded stuff on the streamers. How would they know if you watched live TV?

The TV licence should be abolished in favour of a subscription service, but with a free channel funded by advertising devoted to PSB programming. Why should those who don’t watch it pay for it? The BBC is not an essential service.

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No, I expect balance, not bias.

As I quoted in that seven month old post

it is still as trusted on the right as major conservative newspapers.

Originally Posted by Mr K

They've already ruled out advertising and we need a public service broadcaster - it is an essential service ( tv and radio). Its more likely to be an extra tax on streaming/broadband services. We' ll pay one way or another.

I agree we’re likely to see a ‘data services’ tax being consulted on in the near future. I think it’s too close to charter renewal for it to be brought in for 2027 but it could well be established in the charter for a switch before it expires.

Only a few years ago, broadband wasn’t ubiquitous enough for that to work and it was hard to see how a tax could be crafted to replace the TVL, but I think we are at that point now.

I would expect there to be a sting in the tail though. I know other PSBs would like public service funding to meet their own licence obligations in areas where they’re not commercially viable. At least some of the revenue of any such tax, I suspect, will go into a general public service projects pot which other service providers can bid for. I predict the BBC is going to be told it will have to get by on a lot less.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

As I quoted in that seven month old post

I know a lot of people who would disagree.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I know a lot of people who would disagree.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

They've already ruled out advertising and we need a public service broadcaster - it is an essential service ( tv and radio). Its more likely to be an extra tax on streaming/broadband services. We' ll pay one way or another.

What are ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 if they are not public service broadcasters?

Only those who want to watch it should be paying. If they are so popular, why are they so afraid of voluntary subscriptions?