Reform UK's chronicles

[Sephiroth]

The world (as in England) is going mad. Mark my words, this is all going to boil over in the not too distant future. What would it take? A budget?

Just put them on your house or in your garden, thats what some do around here, the council cant remove them.

Also, if Reform councils are doing this, they are surely shooting themselves in the foot, people wont vote for them next time.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Paul

Just put them on your house or in your garden, thats what some do around here, the council cant remove them.

Also, if Reform councils are doing this, they are surely shooting themselves in the foot, people wont vote for them next time.

Maybe somebody from a 'higher power' has whispered in their ear . . something along the lines of displaying 'possibly racist' insignia on council property . . obviously a poor show of diversity and inclusion old bean, please remove them

Originally Posted by Carth

Maybe somebody from a 'higher power' has whispered in their ear . . something along the lines of displaying 'possibly racist' insignia on council property . . obviously a poor show of diversity and inclusion old bean, please remove them

Why would Nigel say that?

[jem]

Originally Posted by Carth

Maybe somebody from a 'higher power' has whispered in their ear . . something along the lines of displaying 'possibly racist' insignia on council property . . obviously a poor show of diversity and inclusion old bean, please remove them

Although if you follow the link provided, the ITVx ‘headline’ is somewhat disingenuous. What the leader of Warwickshire Council actually said was, and I am paraphrasing, but you can always check it yourself;

“wet flags and powered Christmas lights may not be a good combination, so they need to come down for now”; but and this is a direct quote "Then, in the New Year, residents are encouraged to put their flags back up - fresh, tidy and in good condition.

That was[sic]* we honour our flags properly, rather than leaving them to rot.”

And suddenly the entire narrative changes doesn’t it? ITVx aren’t actually lying but relying on most people not bothering to read past the first few lines.

Remind me, what’s that quote associated with Cardinal Richelieu?

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him."

* presumably a typo for 'way'

Does that mean the "patriots" in Kent were mistaken?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Does that mean the "patriots" in Kent were mistaken?

no it means they aren't qualified electricians

Originally Posted by papa smurf

no it means they aren't qualified electricians

I believe the word "electricians" is superfluous, in this context…

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/21...IKLsZf6QrzWow#



https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...d-of-christmas

It’s a bit desperate……..even for you.

I don't really mind the flag in places, but do we need them on every lamp post? I was in another town, just outside of London, and it was everywhere. I am not kidding when I say they were on every lamppost, telecoms boxes on the street were painted, so was the roundabout, and there were also bigger flags draped across railings at street level.

I remember that in the UK we used to comment on how it was different between here and America, where they have the flag in classrooms and outside houses, but this is now a whole other level!

It seems fine to have it outside homes, have one flying somewhere central in town and/or on a town hall and things like that. I hadn't see this many flags even during Jubliees, Royal weddings or the World Cup.

Also, it must be costing the people putting them up a fortune.

Originally Posted by Pierre

It’s a bit desperate……..even for you.

Well, I’ll keep my powder dry.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't really mind the flag in places, but do we need them on every lamp post? I was in another town, just outside of London, and it was everywhere. I am not kidding when I say they were on every lamppost, telecoms boxes on the street were painted, so was the roundabout, and there were also bigger flags draped across railings at street level.

I remember that in the UK we used to comment on how it was different between here and America, where they have the flag in classrooms and outside houses, but this is now a whole other level!

It seems fine to have it outside homes, have one flying somewhere central in town and/or on a town hall and things like that. I hadn't see this many flags even during Jubliees, Royal weddings or the World Cup.

Also, it must be costing the people putting them up a fortune.

Fair point, Damien. But - it is a sign of the degree of backlash that's taking place, most likely to counter the Palestinian flag that abounds at marches which then leaks into the boat people situation.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, I’ll keep my powder dry.

Hopefully not in a small plastic bag hidden in the sock drawer

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Fair point, Damien. But - it is a sign of the degree of backlash that's taking place, most likely to counter the Palestinian flag that abounds at marches which then leaks into the boat people situation.

I am not sure it's the Palestinian flag tbh, those are relatively isolated to some areas of London and protests, and I am not sure it cuts through.

It seems to have come from a social media craze and then from a perception that they've been told they can't do it, so do so in protest and a general feeling of anger.

A healthier outlet to some of the anger that had exploded the previous summer. People just seem very angry at the moment. I've said on here, maybe this thread, about how some people on Twitter who were relatively normal political commentators have gone completely mad.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c891...h-notification

Reform UK's former Wales leader sentenced to 10 and a half years over pro-Russia bribes

Ex-leader of Reform UK in Wales Nathan Gill sentenced to 10-and-a-half years for taking bribes as part of a pro-Russia influence campaign - watch the hearing live from the Old Bailey

Judge Mrs Justice Cheema-Grubb described it as "sophisticated offending" and says the harm it inflicted is "profound"

Gill, 52, was paid thousands of pounds to give TV interviews in favour of a key Putin ally and to make speeches in the European Parliament, where he was an MEP from 2014 to 2020

His phone was seized by police and had a "long sequence" of WhatsApp messages with pro-Russian Ukrainian politician Oleg Voloshyn, the court hears
The father-of-seven has admitted eight counts of bribery between 2018 and 2019, with prosecutors outlining how he read from Voloshyn's "script" in the European Parliament