Starmer’s chronicles

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

….Or cut back on waste, which they won’t do.

But this is also fantasy politics. Something politicians say to pretend you don't have to make difficult choices. You can cut waste, sure, but it isn't enough to make up for the huge cost of providing pensions, benefits or services. Reform tried this nonsense and soon found themselves having to raise taxes because adult social care is expensive and making sure people don't order too many post-it cuts and cut back on the after-hours taxis doesn't pay for it.

[Mr K]

Income tax is due a rise, it hasnt been raised for 50 years, just cut. The state of the nations finances hasn't much to do with this Govt, who've been in a little over a year, but the last 20 years, and decisions made by the electorate.

With an ageing non productive population, increaded demands on the NHS/care systen, and a public that demand all this and more, but dont want to pay for it.

If they cut NI to protect those that bother to work then fair enough.
Its like when you go shopping, you don't get something for nothing, and if you want more, you have to pay more.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

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With an ageing non productive population

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I'd be a lot more concerned about the younger, fitter, and can't be arsed non productive population.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

and if you want more, you have to pay more.

or we could offer less, and pay less.

The government doesn't deserve more tax receipts as it has proven itself incapable of being being able to spend it prudently.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

or we could offer less, and pay less.

The government doesn't deserve more tax receipts as it has proven itself incapable of being being able to spend it prudently.

What do you want less of ? Health, education, police, transport, state pension?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What do you want less of ? Health, education, police, transport, state pension?

less bullshyte

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What do you want less of ? Health, education, police, transport, state pension?

I'd go for:

Facebook
Twitter (lets rename it 'X' because . . . )
Net Zero
AI
Data Centers
TV (40 channels of shite is more than enough)
Idiots
Spam Phone Calls
Advertisements
Promoting the 2% of stuff that the other 98% don't give a toss about
American Culture
Shops/Businesses selling nothing but cheap rubbish imports



'sigh' . . . and breathe

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

….Or cut back on waste, which they won’t do.

Like Reform do in Kent.

Originally Posted by Carth

I'd go for:
Facebook
Twitter (lets rename it 'X' because . . . )
Net Zero
AI
Data Centers
TV (40 channels of shite is more than enough)
Idiots
Spam Phone Calls
Advertisements
Promoting the 2% of stuff that the other 98% don't give a toss about
American Culture
Shops/Businesses selling nothing but cheap rubbish imports

Except most of those dont seem to have anything to do with income tax we pay.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Paul

Except most of those dont seem to have anything to do with income tax we pay.

true enough . . but I'd still like less of them

oh, and I forgot to add the Celebrity Fixation to the list, far too much of that around for my liking

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What do you want less of ? Health, education, police, transport, state pension?

The sensible among us want less of £52m roads to nowhere in (Lammy's) Guyana; £10 billion to lease back our property in the Chagos (which may be on hold at the moment).

The £52 million is really tangible; think what it could support by way of child mental health?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What do you want less of ? Health, education, police, transport, state pension?

Less spent on illegal immigration
Less benefits for working age people that are a bit anxious
Less benefits for legal immigrants that have never worked (usually relatives brought over)
Less money spent on public sector pensions
Less money wasted in the NHS
Less money spent on the Chagos islands (hopefully no money)

To start, if I really think about it I could easily come up with more.