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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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Just wait and see what comes out about the motive.
Two people being arrested is odd; it doesn't fit the pattern of some of these previous incidents, especially if it's not terrorism related.
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Were both of them attacking people? Or was the other person just accompanying the attacker?
Also wouldn't fit a scenario of an individual going crazy.
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Yesterday, 12:59
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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my first thought is this is a calm the people down exercise, the old nothing to see here approach, only time will tell
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IIRC there was an incident where they refused to give details of the ethnicity of the perpetrator, people assumed he was Asian and started demonstrating etc.
I think it was the incident where the little girls were stabbed at a nursery
I imagine that this statement will be to try and prevent this from happening again.
Last edited by RichardCoulter; Yesterday at 13:03.
Reason: FAC NAS spelling
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Yesterday, 13:15
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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IIRC there was an incident where they refused to give details of the ethnicity of the perpetrator, people assumed he was Asian and started demonstrating etc.
I think it was the incident where the little girls were stabbed at a nursery
I imagine that this statement will be to try and prevent this from happening again.
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Where there are living witnesses to an attack, details about any attacker(s) will quickly become public knowledge.
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Yesterday, 13:19
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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nothing to suggest anything yet
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You'll have to scroll through the following link a bit
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t
It appears that the code word 'plato' was issued and then withdrawn from the link above, that means 'marauding terror attack'
Also interesting that the police again have had to release the identities of the men suspected of the attack so quickly in order to stop the spread of false or supposition of false infomrstion.
Theres nothing like people wanting to push their own narrative but doing it in such a way that their response is 'well, that's not what I actually said' when they're wrong
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Yesterday, 13:33
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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You'll have to scroll through the following link a bit
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t
It appears that the code word 'plato' was issued and then withdrawn from the link above, that means 'marauding terror attack'
Also interesting that the police again have had to release the identities of the men suspected of the attack so quickly in order to stop the spread of false or supposition of false infomrstion.
Theres nothing like people wanting to push their own narrative but doing it in such a way that their response is 'well, that's not what I actually said' when they're wrong |
The attacks were over with 2 people arrested, so Plato was no longer in play. No further response required.
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Yesterday, 13:41
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
This latest episode will make people think twice about rail travel, you don't know what passengers have on their person, even more scary on a packed tube train
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Yesterday, 14:06
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
Anywhere with people packed in an area with no 'escape route' are the usual targets for nutters (of any race/religion) wishing to cause damage to civilians.
Buses
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Concert halls
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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Originally Posted by Carth
Anywhere with people packed in an area with no 'escape route' are the usual targets for nutters (of any race/religion) wishing to cause damage to civilians.
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Very True!
For me it's yet another reason to not use expensive train travel.
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Yesterday, 15:31
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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Originally Posted by Carth
Anywhere with people packed in an area with no 'escape route' are the usual targets for nutters (of any race/religion) wishing to cause damage to civilians.
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At least with some of those places people have a chance of escaping, I think this is why they favour aeroplanes. Somewhere else where people are stuck is on places like cruise ships.
Does anyone know if people are checked before they board a cruise ship, in the same way as an aeroplane? I wonder if they will now consider this for train passengers? It would be very expensive and train tickets are already too expensive as it is.
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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At least with some of those places people have a chance of escaping, I think this is why they favour aeroplanes. Somewhere else where people are stuck is on places like cruise ships.
Does anyone know if people are checked before they board a cruise ship, in the same way as an aeroplane? I wonder if they will now consider this for train passengers? It would be very expensive and train tickets are already too expensive as it is.
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how about an armed guard on the train
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Yesterday, 17:48
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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how about an armed guard on the train
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That would be cheaper than checking passengers airport style.
There are marshalls I think they call them on American aeroplanes, not sure if we havd them.
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Yesterday, 17:56
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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how about an armed guard on the train
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And if somebody mugs the guard and takes the gun?
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Yesterday, 18:09
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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And if somebody mugs the guard and takes the gun?
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Does that happen on US aeroplanes ?
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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Does that happen on US aeroplanes ?
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The marshals are not in uniform, so nobody knows who they are.
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Yesterday, 18:31
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Re: Stabbing attack on train
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
That would be cheaper than checking passengers airport style.
There are marshalls I think they call them on American aeroplanes, not sure if we havd them.
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According to the New York Times, there are around 3,000 Air Marshalls, and the FAA manage around 45,000 flights per day - but those are in place after all the pre-flight security has been undertaken, so probably not an equivalent solution for trains (around 18,000 train journeys per day) in the U.K….
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