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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
They change headlines a lot.
Reform did well relative to the last election, but will be disappointed they've lost a seat they were favourites in. I think they might suffer from what Corbyn's Labour did in that they were able to engage a lot of voters, but equally managed to motivate a lot of voters to come out against them.
With Reform and Farage seen as a realistic prospect, we might find voters voting tactually to keep them out. It's what has happened here in this one seat.
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Yesterday, 11:29
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Mr K
The 'people' haven't got a good track record. Politicians can't always be blamed. They are making a massive mistake again if they're taken in by Farage, the man that sold them Brexit.
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The 'people' have a voice, it's the politicians that have a poor track record. They also have a vote, and if politicians etc only listen to the 'advisor' in their earhole, they won't hear the whispers blowing in from the street.
What follows is the people not voting for someone because they don't seem to listen . . . or as now seems regular, not voting at all.
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Yesterday, 11:42
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Maggy
I really hate Farage. I don't think he gives a stuff about anything but what he can get out of the public purse for his own back pocket. He's on the make.
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Could you substantiate your basis for hatred in Court? And if not in Court, then here in the forum?
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Yesterday, 12:10
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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I really hate Farage. I don't think he gives a stuff about anything but what he can get out of the public purse for his own back pocket. He's on the make.
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LOL, just like every politician then.
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Yesterday, 12:26
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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LOL, just like every politician then.
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no no no you can't include Angela Rayner in that, she's totally honest 
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Yesterday, 13:06
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#906
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Was it Billy Connolly that once said something like "anyone who thinks of becoming a Politician should immediately be barred from becoming one" . . . probably stolen from elsewhere but that's the one I sort of remember
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Yesterday, 16:01
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Maggy
I really hate Farage. I don't think he gives a stuff about anything but what he can get out of the public purse for his own back pocket. He's on the make.
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Is that based on any real evidence, Maggy, or just the opinion you have formed from all the naysayers?
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Yesterday, 16:11
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
I still support Brexit but that is another topic.
More relevant here is Plaid beat Reform in Caerphilly.
Interestingly the Google search "Plaid Cymru beat reform" has two headlines from BBC
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One is an article, one is a "live" report ? You often get this.
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Yesterday, 16:25
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Farage hasn't done much wrong. Some stuff, yes. Other stuff. no.
1. He proposed leaving the EU and 17 million people decided he was right.
2. The Tory government screwed Brexit up - wrong decisions, wrong approach.
3. Labour is doing even worse by appeasing the EU who know we are weak.
4. Farage poses an alternative but he has a duty to offer doable policies.
5. Farage has a warning in the Caerphilly by-election. He needs realistic policies.
Farage should not be singled out for hatred.
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Farage should not be singled out for hatred.
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Why not ?
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Yesterday, 16:29
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
The Reform UK Party is Farage, just like The Brexit Party and UKIP were before that - everyone else are just hangers-on, with no ability to direct or change things…
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Yesterday, 16:48
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The Reform UK Party is Farage, just like The Brexit Party and UKIP were before that - everyone else are just hangers-on, with no ability to direct or change things…
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At least they didn't lose their deposit in the welsh election
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Yesterday, 16:50
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The Reform UK Party is Farage, just like The Brexit Party and UKIP were before that - everyone else are just hangers-on, with no ability to direct or change things…
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Like Kent CC? A forewarning of what they'd be like running the country. They do seem to attract the completely talentless.
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Yesterday, 16:52
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Like Kent CC? A forewarning of what they'd be like running the country. They do seem to attract the completely talentless.
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that's labours job init
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Yesterday, 17:17
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Paul
Why not ?
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On a matter of principal. Hate is too strong a word for that type of person - some might agree with me.
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