Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

... minority must not be able to dictate events.

This is how our country works now, the vocal minority dictate.

[Sephiroth]

…. And it must stop - particularly where it as alien culture that is doing the dictating.

[papa smurf]

Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans will not be able to buy tickets to Aston Villa match in Birmingham
The Tel Aviv side won't sell their supporters any tickets - irrespective of whether the current ban on attendance is overturned or not.Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans will not be able to buy tickets to Aston Villa match in Birmingham

https://news.sky.com/story/maccabi-t...match-13454141


looks like their thugs won't be meeting our thugs after all

[thenry]

A match spoiled by a bunch of offended people. How sad.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by thenry

A match spoiled by a bunch of offended people. How sad.

the match was incidental, the fight was the main event

Originally Posted by thenry

A match spoiled by a bunch of offended people. How sad.

I think thats a bit of an exageration, the match will not be spoilt, and there will be plenty of fans still.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Paul

I think thats a bit of an exageration, the match will not be spoilt, and there will be plenty of fans still.

Home fans only

Originally Posted by thenry

Home fans only

Yes (officially). How is that confusing ?

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Paul

Yes (officially). How is that confusing ?

I thought the game was two sided. I guess you see it differently. Fairs

[denphone]

l guess Keir Starmer and his clones delusionally think they know more then the West Midlands Police.

Intelligence on ‘extreme’ Maccabi fans with history of violence led to Villa Park ban.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...villa-park-ban

Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters were banned from watching their game against Aston Villa after police intelligence concluded the biggest risk of violence came from extremist fans of the Israeli club.

The ban ignited an intense controversy and was criticised by the prime minister, as well as others claiming it was a surrender to antisemitism.

The police assessment led to the fixture on 6 November at Villa Park in Birmingham being classed as high risk. The intelligence and risk assessments that led to that conclusion and ban have not been made public.

But sources with knowledge of the details of the intelligence and risk assessments have told the Guardian that the Maccabi fans were considered likely to be the perpetrators of trouble.

According to sources, police intelligence said:

Scores of extreme Maccabi fans with a past history of violence and shouting “racist taunts” were expected to travel to the Birmingham game.

Dutch police told their British counterparts that the Maccabi fans had instigated trouble in Amsterdam at a game last year.

They had randomly picked Muslims in Amsterdam to attack. That led to reprisal violence with some Dutch Jews attacked.

A huge Dutch police effort, involving 5,000 officers across three days, was needed to quell the trouble.

A community impact assessment by West Midlands police recorded that some Jewish people wanted the Maccabi fans banned because of the trouble that might ensue if they attended.

Any trouble started by Maccabi fans attending the Birmingham game could lead to reprisals from local people and further trouble.

The process did not consider whether the ban on fans of the Israeli club could be criticised as antisemitic itself or surrendering to antisemitism.

The ban on Maccabi fans was made by Birmingham’s Safety Advisory Group. It was decided after an intelligence assessment was conducted by West Midlands police, shared with the national UK football policing unit.

The UK football policing unit is understood to have backed the conclusions reached by local police.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by thenry

I thought the game was two sided. I guess you see it differently. Fairs

the fans aren't playing but both teams are. so it's still a two sided game.

Originally Posted by denphone

l guess Keir Starmer and his clones delusionally think they know more then the West Midlands Police.

Intelligence on ‘extreme’ Maccabi fans with history of violence led to Villa Park ban.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...villa-park-ban

Unfortunately plod has form when it comes to giving undue weight to activists in recent times. Starmer might - might - have spoken hastily in this instance, however only a blind fool could fail to see the extreme latitude given to the pro-pals in their terrorist tea towels to act in threatening ways and utter blatant antisemitic slurs on our streets over the past months. Questionable decisions in the name of community cohesion (Rotherham, anyone?) and over-reaction, bowing to pressure from well-placed activists (5 armed coppers arresting a comedian for something he wrote on the internet) would tend to erode even a prime minister’s assumption that the police are handling culturally-sensitive issues fairly.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the fans aren't playing but both teams are. so it's still a two sided game.

You think the fans are a collective?