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If we’re offering context, then the quote in full context is important. Even the Graun managed to provide that, admittedly 10 paragraphs down.
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Originally Posted by Jenrick
That’s not the kind of country I want to live in. I want to live in a country where people are properly integrated. It’s not about the colour of your skin or your faith – of course it isn’t. But I want people to be living alongside each other, not parallel lives. That’s not the right way we want to live as a country.”
In context, the comments address failure to integrate. His observations may be accurate or they may not be, but they are very obviously not racist, as some have tried to claim.
This is a case of people reacting to Jenrick's words, correctly or incorrectly But I do appreciate that as he works for GB News, he must adopt their victim mentality or risk losing his work there.
If we’re offering context, then the quote in full context is important. Even the Graun managed to provide that, admittedly 10 paragraphs down.
In context, the comments address failure to integrate. His observations may be accurate or they may not be, but they are very obviously not racist, as some have tried to claim.
Not a claim I have made…
However, the fact he was filming in one area whilst commenting on another, may cast some doubt on his veracity…
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Not a claim I have made…
However, the fact he was filming in one area whilst commenting on another, may cast some doubt on his veracity…
If he’d said something like “Here I am in Handsworth and …” then perhaps. But he didn’t. He said “I went to Handsworth the other day and …”. In which case it’s difficult to see what the actual problem is. I frequently discuss issues of interest whilst not standing in the exact place where I observed them. That isn’t controversial, unless I’m claiming to be reporting on-the-spot, and again, Jenrick wasn’t, and wasn’t claiming to be either.
The Left has a clear agenda here, which is to paint any discussion of racial issues as inherently racist. It’s a tired playbook and one you shouldn’t fall for.
I went to Handsworth in Birmingham the other day to do a video on litter and it was absolutely appalling. It’s as close as I’ve come to a slum in this country. But the other thing I noticed there was that it was one of the worst integrated places I’ve ever been to. In fact, in the hour and a half I was filming news there I didn’t see another white face
That’s not the kind of country I want to live in. I want to live in a country where people are properly integrated. It’s not about the colour of your skin or your faith, of course it isn’t. But I want people to be living alongside each other, not parallel lives. That’s not the right way we want to live as a country.
He is the one who brought race into it.
Why is it a failure of integration that he didn't see 'another white face'? For all we know, the people he saw were English people, with a Brummie accent, who support Villa and England in the football and attend Edgbaston when a test match is on. We don't know.
If he wants a genuine discussion about groups living in entirely different cultures, with little common ground or interaction, then don't start it by talking about people's skin colour. Skin colour is not a measure of integration.
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Why is it a failure of integration that he didn't see 'another white face'? For all we know, the people he saw were English people, with a Brummie accent, who support Villa and England in the football and attend Edgbaston when a test match is on. We don't know.
Yes, indeed, because Birmingham’s massively integrated like that.
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If he wants a genuine discussion about groups living in entirely different cultures, with little common ground or interaction, then don't start it by talking about people's skin colour. Skin colour is not a measure of integration.
Well, thank you at least for demonstrating another page of the Left/metro-liberal playbook - claiming “we don’t know” stuff we actually very easily do know (c.f. “How do you know I’m a man?” Posited by obviously male trans-rights heckler at a conference women’s event yesterday). It’s just another facet of the same narrative, designed to ensure you can’t even talk about a subject.
You only have to spend an hour or so walking through these places - and I have, incidentally, spent some time living and walking in the fringes of Brum and Smethwick some years ago - to see who’s embracing Britishness and who’s forming enclaves.
It is not racist to draw attention to observable facts. It is utter foolishness to continue to insist certain topics can’t be discussed, are inherently evil or are unknowable.* The longer the metropolitan commentariat class continues to peddle these absurdities, the angrier people who can see it’s untrue will get. And *that’s* when you have an actual problem, because people - voters - turn to extremists when they think the mainstream parties aren’t listening.
*Lots of young women in Rochdale and elsewhere stand as witnesses to what happens when important issues are shut down just in case they’re seen as racist. Seems like we’ve learned nothing.
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This is a case of people reacting to Jenrick's words, correctly or incorrectly But I do appreciate that as he works for GB News, he must adopt their victim mentality or risk losing his work there.
I think you're somewhat off here, Andrew.
The vultures seize on the bit they want in order to knock a Tory off his perch. As I'm sure (?) you'll agree, generically Jenrick was right; little or no sign of integration and we all know what these ghettos eventually bring.
The BBC devoted nearly all of yesterday's 5PM news programme to Jenrick and the reporter's bias was sickeningly obvious.
The vultures seize on the bit they want in order to knock a Tory off his perch. As I'm sure (?) you'll agree, generically Jenrick was right; little or no sign of integration and we all know what these ghettos eventually bring.
The BBC devoted nearly all of yesterday's 5PM news programme to Jenrick and the reporter's bias was sickeningly obvious.
One has to wonder which Conservative Party member decided to leak a recording of a six month old Aldridge-Brownhills Conservative Association dinner, and why?
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One has to wonder which Conservative Party member decided to leak a recording of a six month old Aldridge-Brownhills Conservative Association dinner, and why?
You're just being mischievous and not at all serious.
Do you believe that Jenrick's comment on integration was racist?
You're just being mischievous and not at all serious.
Do you believe that Jenrick's comment on integration was racist?
Why is it mischievous to wonder why, six months after an event, someone leaks a recording about one of the challengers to the current Leader of the Conservative Party?
About Jenrick’s comment - as someone on this forum frequently says
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use your imagination
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