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Old Yesterday, 18:42   #1876
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I think Trump's a berk ( just saying), and its embarassing how we're toadying. It's a mark of how a small and vulnerable Country we've become.
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Not just those two, there's also Sir Keir!
He's an Arsenal fan. I'd ask for an invite upstairs
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He's an Arsenal fan. I'd ask for an invite upstairs
You'd have a chance of that if you supported your home town
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I think Trump's a berk ( just saying), and its embarassing how we're toadying. It's a mark of how a small and vulnerable Country we've become.
He was never fit to be president the first time, let alone a second time and now this convicted felon in the so called land of the free is now trying to suppress free speech and opposition in his fascist authoritarian presidency.
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He was never fit to be president the first time, let alone a second time and now this convicted felon in the so called land of the free is now trying to suppress free speech and opposition in his fascist authoritarian presidency.
and yet people are still 'on his side' - not saying that's right or wrong, but if enough people vote for you you're in.

probably similar to Farage over here
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Thing is, Trump IS President and we have to deal sensibly with him in a manner that best suits our needs. When he's gone, we'll have to deal with another awkward sod.
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Thing is, Trump IS President and we have to deal sensibly with him in a manner that best suits our needs. When he's gone, we'll have to deal with another awkward sod.
Very much this.

Diplomacy has to be pragmatic. We shouldn’t have to massage his fragile ego just to get him to do what any normally-adjusted individual in the highest public office should instinctively understand, but we don’t act according to what we feel should be, we act according to the way things actually are.

Trump is a lot of very hard work for comparatively little gain (because he’s only onside until the next person gets their chance to whisper in his ear), but he is what he is.
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Very much this.

Diplomacy has to be pragmatic. We shouldn’t have to massage his fragile ego just to get him to do what any normally-adjusted individual in the highest public office should instinctively understand, but we don’t act according to what we feel should be, we act according to the way things actually are.

Trump is a lot of very hard work for comparatively little gain (because he’s only onside until the next person gets their chance to whisper in his ear), but he is what he is.
The Royal Family and putting on the full state visit treatment does seem to stick with him. He also inexplicitly seems to get on well with Starmer; he had several chances to make it difficult for him today and avoided it.
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The Royal Family and putting on the full state visit treatment does seem to stick with him. He also inexplicitly seems to get on well with Starmer; he had several chances to make it difficult for him today and avoided it.
I wouldn't read too much into anything Trump says or does. He can only think 5 minutes ahead . At the State Banquet he was mostly thinking:-
  • 'what's for pudding ?'
  • 'where's the toilet? '
  • 'wonder which royal I can bonk? '
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