15-09-2025, 13:40
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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I got no idea who most politicians mentioned in any post online are anymore
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15-09-2025, 13:41
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
... as well as positioning for a Reform UK government post.
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15-09-2025, 14:03
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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... as well as positioning for a Reform UK government post.
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Probably splitting the right-of-centre vote to let in a Labour-LibDem Coalition! 
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15-09-2025, 14:25
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Probably splitting the right-of-centre vote to let in a Labour-LibDem Coalition! |
.... which would be worse than we have now.
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15-09-2025, 14:30
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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.... which would be worse than we have now.
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Is that possible? 
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15-09-2025, 14:41
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Is that possible? |
Yeah - think about it!
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15-09-2025, 15:13
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
We'd probably be better off with a Govt. like France has
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15-09-2025, 18:53
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
I think Reform needs to have a few seasoned MPs amongst its ranks. But i wouldn’t want mass defections from the Tories as I don’t want the Tories.
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15-09-2025, 19:03
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
We could debate which Tory MPs we want to see defect to Reform UK in order to make the latter more effective. However, it's not an easy call because the front bench shower are, mainly, the shambles that were the last Tory government.
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15-09-2025, 19:13
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Pretend (Priti Patel) it's (Iain Duncan Smith) us (Jacob Rees-Mogg). A corrosive seasoned fellow in rust, Rishi Sunak and while at it sodomy, Sadiq Khan.
I can't believe they were in power 
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15-09-2025, 19:29
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Isn't it weird how those out of power are always, popular, those in power are always unpopular?
Rinse and repeat, different parties and pms can't fix broken Britain. The public are fools expecting low taxes, high public spending, no migration, but somebody to do the crap jobs, whilst they don't work, but expect pensions/benefits/ a health service....
Politicians can't fix things, they are only ever interested in power, we all know that. Only the population can fix things. But they seem mostly interested in personalities, scandals, reality tv, and populists telling them what they want to hear.
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15-09-2025, 20:02
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Yeah - think about it!
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Good point. Two words. First one Liz.
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15-09-2025, 20:12
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Good point. Two words. First one Liz. |
Not in the Lab-Lib sense because Truss was neither of those.
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15-09-2025, 21:12
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Isn't it weird how those out of power are always, popular, those in power are always unpopular?
Rinse and repeat, different parties and pms can't fix broken Britain. The public are fools expecting low taxes, high public spending, no migration, but somebody to do the crap jobs, whilst they don't work, but expect pensions/benefits/ a health service....
Politicians can't fix things, they are only ever interested in power, we all know that. Only the population can fix things. But they seem mostly interested in personalities, scandals, reality tv, and populists telling them what they want to hear.
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Labour weren’t “popular” out of power.
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22-09-2025, 13:18
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930xypxpqpo
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Reform UK has announced it would force all migrants holding permanent settled status in the UK to reapply for visas with tougher rules, if the party wins the next election.
Under the plans, Reform will abolish the right of migrants to apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) - a permanent status which give migrants rights and access to benefits.
Reform will also unveil plans to bar anyone other than British citizens from accessing welfare. Taken together the party claims their plans would save £234bn over several decades, though this figure is contested.
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This is more extreme than Trump; in the US, Green Card holders are still protected for the most part.
This isn't new migrants either, it's everyone. Anyone who's not a British citizen but is living here risks being kicked out if they're unsuccessful for a much stricter Visa. This can be former EU citizens who've been here for decades, paid taxes, had families, but just never applied for a passport (£1,700 btw) because why did they never need to do so?
I know someone from Europe who's lived here for 45 years, now retired, married to an English partner and is now receiving a pension after working the vast majority of their adult life here, paying taxes. They will be removed under this policy because they're no longer a skilled worker and they'll certainly get their pension taken away.
How is that fair? How is that what we want this country to be?
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