Yesterday, 16:27
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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In the spirit of Hugh, Rayner can now be where she is needed: looking after her disabled child in Ashton-under-Lyne.
Conversely, she could live in her newly purchased Hove home, but again, in the spirit of Hugh, she now meet her obligations to her constituents.
Question: Is she damaged goods in terms of landing a lucrative job? POoor thing - as sit creek as it gets.
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Do you think she acted with integrity?
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Lammy is the new deputy PM.
Cooper is Foreign Secretary.
Mahmood is Home Secretary.
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so they've all done a crap job and now they're being shuffled around to do a crap job somewhere else
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Yesterday, 16:32
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Angela Rayner has stood by her description of the Conservatives as “homophobic, racist, misogynistic … s ***” after the Labour leader distanced himself from her words.
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“We cannot get any worse than a bunch of ****, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of ****,”
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I think it’s clear how she feels about Tories, to argue otherwise is clutching a bit.
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Yesterday, 16:42
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
This seems to be about getting Cooper out of the Home Office without annoying her.
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Yesterday, 18:17
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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This seems to be about getting Cooper out of the Home Office without annoying her.
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Do you think Mahmood will drive forward with passion on the Rape Gangs enquiry?………which has gone very quiet……….
Or will she obsfucate the whole thing, so that nothing happens in this parliament…………
As Justice Secretary she did say some robust things, let’s see how she performs on this issue, and with illegal immigration.
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Yesterday, 21:44
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Anyone else think that the size of the re-shuffle indicates a lot of it was in the pipeline anyway?
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Yesterday, 22:04
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Do you think Mahmood will drive forward with passion on the Rape Gangs enquiry?………which has gone very quiet……….
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I don't know. TBH I thought they went ahead with that which means it's out of their hands for the next couple of years.
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As Justice Secretary she did say some robust things, let’s see how she performs on this issue, and with illegal immigration.
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She is seen as more hardline and, according to news reports anyway, a more effective minister. I am guessing Starmer hopes she can sort out the Home Office, though don't hold your breath.
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Yesterday, 22:04
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Angela Rayner has stood by her description of the Conservatives as “homophobic, racist, misogynistic … s ***” after the Labour leader distanced himself from her words.
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“We cannot get any worse than a bunch of ****, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of ****,”
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I think it’s clear how she feels about Tories, to argue otherwise is clutching a bit.
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I didn’t realise that every member of the Conservative Party had gone to Eton…
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-...**-2021-09-26/
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BRIGHTON, England, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner launched a war of words against Britain's Conservative Party, describing Prime Minister Boris Johnson's cabinet as "****" for its views…
… Speaking to Labour members at the party's conference in the southern English town of Brighton late on Saturday, Rayner called the Conservative government "a bunch of ****, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute pile ... of banana republic ... Etonian ... piece of ****".
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Today, 07:13
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Today, 09:07
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
There’s one person that should to go in this shake up and I’ve heard nothing: Rachel Reeves. I still open up the news each day in hope.
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Today, 09:27
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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There’s one person that should to go in this shake up and I’ve heard nothing: Rachel Reeves. I still open up the news each day in hope.
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probably there in name only now Starmer has surrounded himself with financial advisors
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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There’s one person that should to go in this shake up and I’ve heard nothing: Rachel Reeves. I still open up the news each day in hope.
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How would that help? The country is broke after 15 years of decline. A new Chancellor can't magic up money. Nobody wants taxes , not many work, an ageing population, but they want brilliant public services and benefits. Joe Public live in cuckoo land.
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Today, 10:08
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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How would that help? The country is broke after 15 years of decline. A new Chancellor can't magic up money. Nobody wants taxes , not many work, an ageing population, but they want brilliant public services and benefits. Joe Public live in cuckoo land.
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A fair point, but the issue with Reeves isn’t just the state of the economy itself, it’s her approach to it. Any Chancellor is limited by the fiscal reality, but the role demands someone who can inspire confidence, attract investment, and show real creativity in navigating those constraints. Reeves has struggled to move beyond cautious soundbites and hasn’t demonstrated the leadership or vision needed to shift the dial. Sticking with her risks more stagnation at a time when bold, credible direction is exactly what’s needed.
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Today, 10:12
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Trouble with all politicians is that they think that you can borrow your way out of trouble. Really need to read Dickens.
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Today, 10:26
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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It’s a curious hill to want to die on, but crack on.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...er-losing-job/
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Angela Rayner could struggle to afford the mortgage on her £800,000 holiday home after having her salary heavily reduced, following her resignation from government office.
Ms Rayner also faces a hefty tax bill and possible “carelessness” penalty of more than £50,000 for failing to pay the correct stamp duty on the purchase of a flat that sparked her downfall.
In a further blow, Tories demanded she be stripped of her £16,876 severance payment owing to loss of office because in opposition she had voted to stop ministers under investigation getting a pay-off.
“If she has any integrity then surely she must decline any severance payment,” said Kevin Hollinrake, the Tory party chairman.
Ms Rayner’s salary will be cut from £161,409 to £93,904 – a drop of £67,505 – giving her little margin for error in making her monthly mortgage repayments.
Earlier this week, she admitted she had used her life savings to put a deposit down on the flat. She sold her 25 per cent stake in the family home in Ashton-under-Lyne in Great Manchester for £162,500 and used that to put down a £150,000 deposit on the Hove property.
Official documents show she has a £650,000 mortgage on the seaside flat through NatWest.
The scale of the loan will have left her with mortgage repayments as high as £4,000 a month while her salary against an income of £5,400 a month after tax. As deputy prime minister she was taking home £8,100.
Following her resignation, she will have just £1,400 a month left over with two teenage children to look after, covering food and clothing bills, gas and electricity, holidays and sundry other costs.
She also has a £40,000 tax bill to pay as well as a likely penalty of £12,000 plus interest on top of about £1,000 – a total bill of £53,000.
HMRC will have to decide if she should pay the excess for ‘carelessness’ in punishment for originally paying just £30,000 in stamp duty rather than £70,000 on the Hove flat.
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Ms Rayner may now seek to boost her income through public speaking and other events as well as possibly a publishing deal. Her extraordinary back story – from being a single mother at 16 to rise to deputy prime minister – could result in a memoir which could easily outsell other political biographies.
Alternatively, Ms Rayner is among Labour politicians to have previously accepted donations for clothes from Lord Alli – worth £200m – and could turn to other donors for support now. Ms Rayner declared £3,550 worth of clothes from Lord Alli in November last year, before promising to stop accepting donations for her wardrobe.
She also faced criticism for using Lord Alli’s $2.5m Manhattan apartment for a holiday with her new partner, the former Labour MP Sam Tarry.
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How ripe this is.
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