02-09-2025, 22:07
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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If you're banning people speaking to the press, that's an attack on free speech.
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Not “the press” just certain people they don’t want to speak to.
You can’t compel somebody to speak to somebody they don’t want to speak to. They have no right to be spoken too.
That has no bearing on “free speech”.
You don’t understand free speech if you’re going down this route.
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02-09-2025, 22:39
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Not “the press” just certain people they don’t want to speak to.
You can’t compel somebody to speak to somebody they don’t want to speak to. They have no right to be spoken too.
That has no bearing on “free speech”.
You don’t understand free speech if you’re going down this route.
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Reform has changed its policy. Its previously policy which my posts referenced had a bearing on free speech. Hopefully, you get and can agree with this.
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03-09-2025, 11:37
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Deputy PM Angela Rayner admits she did not pay enough stamp duty on second home
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crm4mxrg40pt
caught with nose in the trough?
Angela Rayner has admitted she did not pay the right amount of stamp duty on the purchase of her second home and has referred herself to the independent adviser on ministerial standards.
Speaking to Sky News' political editor Beth Rigby on the Electoral Dysfunction podcast, the deputy prime minister became tearful as she claimed she received incorrect tax advice and spoke to her family about "packing it all in".
https://news.sky.com/story/angela-ra...gning-13424180
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03-09-2025, 12:41
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Deputy PM Angela Rayner admits she did not pay enough stamp duty on second home
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crm4mxrg40pt
caught with nose in the trough?
Angela Rayner has admitted she did not pay the right amount of stamp duty on the purchase of her second home and has referred herself to the independent adviser on ministerial standards.
Speaking to Sky News' political editor Beth Rigby on the Electoral Dysfunction podcast, the deputy prime minister became tearful as she claimed she received incorrect tax advice and spoke to her family about "packing it all in".
https://news.sky.com/story/angela-ra...gning-13424180
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I'm suspicious that the admission is purely to avoid a deeper investigation of everything.
Is this rule that she's broken?
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Include any residential property that:
- is owned on behalf of children under the age of 18 (parents are treated as the owners even if the property is held through a trust and they are not the trustees)
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03-09-2025, 12:47
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Lammy went fishing while Rayner bit the hand that feeds her...
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Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
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All we need now is for Diane Abbotts wig to fly off.
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03-09-2025, 12:49
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by nomadking
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there should be a full HMRC investigation into all her tax affairs
she should resign by the end of the day
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03-09-2025, 12:51
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Deputy PM Angela Rayner eventually (after many denials) admits she didn't pay enough stamp duty on second home.
Starmer gives her a cuddle and says he's proud of her.
Bonfire night can't come soon enough
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03-09-2025, 12:55
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
there should be a full HMRC investigation into all her tax affairs
she should resign by the end of the day
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Including those before she became an MP. Far to many contradictions Eg Lying about her residence address on birth certificates for "sentimental reasons".
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03-09-2025, 13:13
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Including those before she became an MP. Far to many contradictions Eg Lying about her residence address on birth certificates for "sentimental reasons".
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But but labour are the party of honest Jon's, it all the fault of members of the legal profession, giving her incorrect advice. Notice members of the cabinet can do no wrong and sir keir is proud of her. That says it all 
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03-09-2025, 13:46
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Itshim
But but labour are the party of honest Jon's, it all the fault of members of the legal profession, giving her incorrect advice. Notice members of the cabinet can do no wrong and sir keir is proud of her. That says it all |
it's taken her long enough to come clean, is she suing the lawyers for bad advice?
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03-09-2025, 13:55
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
it's taken her long enough to come clean, is she suing the lawyers for bad advice?
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That would open a can of worms regarding all the 'expert' advice that Governments have acted upon over the last 20 (or more) years.
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03-09-2025, 13:57
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Carth
That would open a can of worms regarding all the 'expert' advice that Governments have acted upon over the last 20 (or more) years.
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my expert advice on legal matters is "don't get caught" 
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03-09-2025, 14:03
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Some of Rayner's previous tweets:
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@jeremycorbyn correct to raise tax dodging issue, the public are furious with those who get away with tax avoidance while they pay!
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HMRC staff cut as corporate/super rich tax dodgers not challenged, PM does not have the answers, tax avoidance damaging our country
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She reckons she considered quitting, that decision should be made for her by Starmer.
Labour....it's hilarious, banging on about 14years this and 22billion black hole that.
In 14 months they've become the most hated government in memory, increased the black hole to 50 billion, sent the gilts into a spiral Liz Truss could only dream about and scandal after scandal.
All the while, Nigel just sits and waits stroking his white Persian pussy cat.
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03-09-2025, 14:03
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
my expert advice on legal matters is "don't get caught" |
. . . and if you are caught, always apologise profusely whilst vehemently denying you actually did it.
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03-09-2025, 14:49
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Some of Rayner's previous tweets:
She reckons she considered quitting, that decision should be made for her by Starmer.
Labour....it's hilarious, banging on about 14years this and 22billion black hole that.
In 14 months they've become the most hated government in memory, increased the black hole to 50 billion, sent the gilts into a spiral Liz Truss could only dream about and scandal after scandal.
All the while, Nigel just sits and waits stroking his white Persian pussy cat.
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