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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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What's that got to do with Starmer's government passing laws that inhibit freedom of thought and speech? Usual obfuscation from you.
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Yesterday, 18:47
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
What's that got to do with Starmer's government passing laws that inhibit freedom of thought and speech? Usual obfuscation from you.
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Most of them were passed by the Tories weren't they? Which ones were Labour? (Obviously Labour are bad for not removing them, but i wish the Tories were suddenly concerned for privacy and free speech were as concerned when they were in office).
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Yesterday, 18:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
What's that got to do with Starmer's government passing laws that inhibit freedom of thought and speech? Usual obfuscation from you.
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You said
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free speech in the UK is under serious threat.
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I gave you another example of that…
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Yesterday, 19:26
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
You said
I gave you another example of that…
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Well, no it isn’t and no you didn’t.
Not wishing to speak to one individual or organisation is not imposing on anyone’s right to free speech.
It’s like blocking someone on Twitter, not wanting to listen to them does not stop them saying it.
The state broadcaster, or any publication, does not have any “right” that they “must” be spoken to…………that in and of itself is a pretty authoritarian stance to take if you think that.
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Yesterday, 21:56
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by nomadking
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Four years, Bob.
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Most of them were passed by the Tories weren't they? Which ones were Labour? (Obviously Labour are bad for not removing them, but i wish the Tories were suddenly concerned for privacy and free speech were as concerned when they were in office).
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I'd like to know this too! Did we miss something when our backs were turned?
I don't think Starmer's government was that focused on UK matters, due to the distractions of Trump's tariffs and Ukraine. But that changed after the post-Southport riots.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Four years, Bob.
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I'd like to know this too! Did we miss something when our backs were turned?
I don't think Starmer's government was that focused on UK matters, due to the distractions of Trump's tariffs and Ukraine. But that changed after the post-Southport riots.
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Irrelevant. The lack of principle still stands.
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A Liverpool FC fan group has contacted the prime minister over plans for a broadcaster to appear at the Labour Party’s conference.
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The Mayor of the Liverpool city region has attacked Sir Keir Starmer for appointing the former editor of The Sun to one of the most senior communications jobs in the Government..
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Mick Barton has banned the Nottingham Post and its online arm Nottinghamshire Live over what the BBC understands was a disagreement about a story it ran on local government reorganisation.
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What a complete moron.
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Yesterday, 22:12
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Fortunately, our judiciary is not run in the political way that some countries' set-ups are. It's a Starmer-free zone. 
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A judge who ruled migrants can stay in an Essex hotel was the chairman of a prominent socialist think tank.
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The society works very closely with Labour, is an affiliated party organisation and its membership is predominantly made up of Labour members. Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, also previously served as chair of its commission.
Lord Justice Bean, 71, was also reportedly a member of the Labour Party for at least 28 years before he became a judge.
He served as a treasurer for the Society of Labour Lawyers, which describes itself as a “think tank and affiliated socialist society which provides legal and policy advice to the Labour Party”.
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Nothing political about that?
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Today, 00:09
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by nomadking
LinkNothing political about that?
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I think you'll find that Seph and many others agree the judge's decision was legally correct. By law, the government has to house them.
And being chair of a think tank over 35 years ago does not indicate your current political leanings nor is it comparable to being appointed by the President.
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Pure whataboutery. Two wrongs don't make a right. It's worse in Nottingham for if the local press don't get access to council information, no one else is going to show much interest. Whereas there will be plenty of other media scrutiny at the Labour Party Conference.
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Today, 01:33
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I think you'll find that Seph and many others agree the judge's decision was legally correct. By law, the government has to house them. <snipped>
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Can we not just give them tents in a field . . . or a shoreline?
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