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Old 17-08-2025, 10:17   #1351
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc

Or they are just finding alternative sources that either don't track or dont give that sort of info.
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc

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I assume you're referring to this latest (age verification) implementation of the Act.

Incidentally, since this was introduced, traffic to porn sites has plummeted, so it seems that rather than verify their age or work around the requirement, most just aren't bothering with porn anymore.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...7n9k54qz2o.amp
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The number of people in the UK visiting the most popular pornography sites has decreased sharply since enhanced age verification rules came into place, new figures indicate.
That's probably because those viewing in the UK are now, miraculously, viewing from Albania, Belgium, Germany, Spain, Romania, Turkey etc etc
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Old 17-08-2025, 11:34   #1353
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The best check would be seeing how much increased traffic those other countries have had.
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Old 17-08-2025, 11:53   #1354
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The best check would be seeing how much increased traffic those other countries have had.
And why would they provide that
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Old 17-08-2025, 12:07   #1355
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Say they would. However if those most common VPN countries should increased porn activities then its clear what is happening. Rather than simply saying, oh look UK porn site activity is dropped.
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc

For shits and giggles I went to a website that uses yoti and tried the age estimation using a camera and it simple does not work anyway. Just a spinning estimating age wait page.
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Old 17-08-2025, 12:17   #1357
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc

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Incidentally, since this was introduced, traffic to porn sites has plummeted, so it seems that rather than verify their age or work around the requirement, most just aren't bothering with porn anymore.
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The number of people in the UK visiting the most popular pornography sites has decreased sharply since enhanced age verification rules came into place, new figures indicate.
Thats the point of VPNs, they dont appear to be from the UK anymore.

---------- Post added at 12:17 ---------- Previous post was at 12:16 ----------

Btw, do you really think those 1 million visitors were underage ?
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Thats the point of VPNs, they dont appear to be from the UK anymore.

---------- Post added at 12:17 ---------- Previous post was at 12:16 ----------

Btw, do you really think those 1 million visitors were underage ?
Is possibly the more pertinent question with regards to this topic.
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Old 17-08-2025, 14:08   #1359
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc

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Thats the point of VPNs, they dont appear to be from the UK anymore.

---------- Post added at 12:17 ---------- Previous post was at 12:16 ----------

Btw, do you really think those 1 million visitors were underage ?
Not all of them no, I suspect that some will be adults who can't be bothered verifying their age, aren't able to do so or don't feel comfortable passing personal details onto a porn site who have decided to go down the VPN route instead.

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That's probably because those viewing in the UK are now, miraculously, viewing from Albania, Belgium, Germany, Spain, Romania, Turkey etc etc
Good point.

Re: The earlier rumour that the Government was thinking of banning the use of VPN's. The answer is no and it won't matter too much as not many children actively seek out inappropriate material, it finds them:

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/pe...eadmore-target

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Old 17-08-2025, 15:28   #1360
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc

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Not all of them no, I suspect that some will be adults who can't be bothered verifying their age, aren't able to do so or don't feel comfortable passing personal details onto a porn site who have decided to go down the VPN route instead.

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Good point.

Re: The earlier rumour that the Government was thinking of banning the use of VPN's. The answer is no and it won't matter too much as not many children actively seek out inappropriate material, it finds them:

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/pe...eadmore-target
Of course the government won’t ban VPN’s there’s significant legitimate usage.

And how does inappropriate material find them? Does it sneak into a cage and replace hamster with xhamster ? And then xhamster sends subliminal messages whilst it’s drinking from the bottle going ‘look at me, look at me’

Children are inherently inquisitive and very prone to peer pressure , that can only be managed by parenting, you can have all the technical plans that you like but, without good parenting they will be doomed to fail.
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Old 17-08-2025, 18:29   #1361
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Say they would. However if those most common VPN countries should increased porn activities then its clear what is happening. Rather than simply saying, oh look UK porn site activity is dropped.
Not saying you did , my question was/is how would that be done
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Of course the government won’t ban VPN’s there’s significant legitimate usage.
It would not matter if they did.
As I said before, all you need is a proxy server, easy to set up and use (and share).
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https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1956890792204857543


Guess we shall see where that one ends up...
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What we have said all along, they have no power over other countries, they're just delusional.
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Does Virgin Media allow the use of VPNs on its system?
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