Starmer’s chronicles

[Itshim]

Have stopped my standing order to the R N L I . not that it will make any difference but makes me feel better.if you help people break the law, perhaps they should be prosecuted , clearly they are helping the gangs ,starmer wants to stop. NOT

Originally Posted by Itshim

Have stopped my standing order to the R N L I . not that it will make any difference but makes me feel better.if you help people break the law, perhaps they should be prosecuted , clearly they are helping the gangs ,starmer wants to stop. NOT

You could always redirect your Standing Order to here….

https://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-a-new...-flying-farage

“I am trying to raise enough money to buy a new lifesaving hovercraft for the RNLI, and I would like it to be called ‘The Flying Farage’. I feel this would be incredibly appropriate, as Mr. Farage has taken such an active interest in their activities. Please give generously!”

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris

What would be wrong with you saying that in the first place, if it’s what you actually mean?

Many people won’t say openly what they believe because it forces them to confront who they actually are.

An admission of guilt

[papa smurf]

Ricky Jones: Suspended Labour councillor who called for protesters' throats to be cut at rally not guilty of encouraging violent disorder


WTF two tier justice or what


https://news.sky.com/story/ricky-jon...order-13412060

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Ricky Jones: Suspended Labour councillor who called for protesters' throats to be cut at rally not guilty of encouraging violent disorder


WTF two tier justice or what


https://news.sky.com/story/ricky-jon...order-13412060

or two years for this

Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b******* for all I care... If that makes me racist, so be it.

that was seen by about 40 people before it was deleted

This type of thing promotes distrust between the government and the governed, and the public and the police.

I don't think Jones should be in prison, but neither do I think Connolly should be imprisoned either. She should be released immediately and compensated.

Originally Posted by Pierre

or two years for this



that was seen by about 40 people before it was deleted

This type of thing promotes distrust between the government and the governed, and the public and the police.

I don't think Jones should be in prison, but neither do I think Connolly should be imprisoned either. She should be released immediately and compensated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3nn60wyr6o

Her message was reposted 940 times and viewed 310,000 times

In his sentencing remarks, external, Judge Melbourne Inman said Connolly's offence was "category A" - meaning "high culpability" - and that both the prosecution and her own barrister agreed she "intended to incite serious violence".

For Reader, this showed "they weren't arguing this was a silly tweet and she should be let off - her own counsel agreed this was a serious issue".

At her appeal, Connolly claimed that while she accepted she intended to stir up racial hatred, she always denied trying to incite violence.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

or two years for this



that was seen by about 40 people before it was deleted

This type of thing promotes distrust between the government and the governed, and the public and the police.

I don't think Jones should be in prison, but neither do I think Connolly should be imprisoned either. She should be released immediately and compensated.

it's been made clear that it's ok to insight a mob to murder people you don't like as long as they are far right

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it's been made clear that it's ok to insight a mob to murder people you don't like as long as they are far right

I think what he did was wrong, but he was acquitted by a jury, whilst Connolly plead guilty to the offences…

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I think what he did was wrong, but he was acquitted by a jury, whilst Connolly plead guilty to the offences…

Her and many others, were advised by their own counsel to plead guilty, and they all suffered for it and were given overly harsh sentences.

Whereas, ones that held out for a trial were acquitted by a jury in 17mins.

https://murrayhughman.co.uk/jamie-mi...-of-southport/

Do you think Lucy Connolly should be in prison Hugh?

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Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3nn60wyr6o

Sold down the river by her own counsel. Didn't do a very good job of representing her.

The judgement also highlighted other online posts from Connolly that the judges said indicated her "view about illegal immigrants".

So it's illegal to have a dim view of illegal immigrants. I'm guilty then.

On 3 August, responding to an anti-racism protest in Manchester, she wrote: "I take it they will all be in line to sign up to house an illegal boat invader then. Oh sorry, refugee.

"Maybe sign a waiver to say they don't mind if it's one of their family that gets attacked, butchered, raped etc, by unvetted criminals."

Again, what's wrong with those opinions and statements?

[Taf]

The UK's bioethanol industry faces collapse, after a government decision not to offer the sector a rescue package.

The US-UK trade pact, agreed in May, removed a 19% tariff on ethanol imported from the US up to a quota of 1.4bn litres. That is approximately equivalent to the current size of the UK market and the firms claim the trade agreement had made their businesses "commercially unviable".

Bioethanol, a fuel made from wheat, corn or sugar beet, is added to fuels such as E10 petrol in the UK.

The bioethanol industry buys thousands of tonnes of wheat from UK farms, and Ensus also produces 30% of the UK's commercial carbon dioxide – used in soft drinks, medical and nuclear industries.

The government said it would continue to work on measures to ensure the resilience of the CO2 supply chain.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24zlel2y5yo

So whilst pushing us to higher-ethanol fuels, they effectively kill the UK ethanol industry. And whilst they scream at us to reduce CO2 production, they need to produce CO2 for other uses. I wonder what is going on in Miliband's empty head?

[Carth]

I don't think anyone in a position of power - Govt. or Business - are making decisions that benefit the Country.

Still, it's nice and sunny outside and there's lots of shite on the TV to look forward to later

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Her and many others, were advised by their own counsel to plead guilty, and they all suffered for it and were given overly harsh sentences.

Whereas, ones that held out for a trial were acquitted by a jury in 17mins.

https://murrayhughman.co.uk/jamie-mi...-of-southport/

Do you think Lucy Connolly should be in prison Hugh?

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Sold down the river by her own counsel. Didn't do a very good job of representing her.



So it's illegal to have a dim view of illegal immigrants. I'm guilty then.



Again, what's wrong with those opinions and statements?

Lucy Connelly was inciting violence and it could easily have led to some idiot actually setting fire to a building full of illegal immigrants. So sorry, nobody should be allowed to get away with that.

Ricky Jones should have been banged up, too. It’s completely unacceptable behaviour.

[Carth]

"Inciting Violence" seems a bit of a catchall phrase, and open to how you personally work it into a situation.

for example, things that may incite violence:

Piss poor referees in football matches
Constant phone calls from energy advice companies (and others)
Boxing promoters (because sport is watching two people batter each other isn't it)
Weapon Manufacturers (go on, tell me it's just for defense)
Neighbours that have outside parties until 2am
Little scrotes that tell you to "F off Gramps" when you catch them looking a little too closely at your car interior

I could go on

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Carth

"Inciting Violence" seems a bit of a catchall phrase, and open to how you personally work it into a situation.

for example, things that may incite violence:

Piss poor referees in football matches
Constant phone calls from energy advice companies (and others)
Boxing promoters (because sport is watching two people batter each other isn't it)
Weapon Manufacturers (go on, tell me it's just for defense)
Neighbours that have outside parties until 2am
Little scrotes that tell you to "F off Gramps" when you catch them looking a little too closely at your car interior

I could go on

And what ever you do don't wave cardboard with writing on it. Imagine the UK press reaction if it happen in the USA or even China.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Lucy Connelly was inciting violence and it could easily have led to some idiot actually setting fire to a building full of illegal immigrants. So sorry, nobody should be allowed to get away with that.

Really?

Was she saying "let's all meet on the corner South Rd and West street at 18:00, bring some petrol and we'll go to the migrant hotel in the town centre and burn it down" ?

Now that is incitement to violence.

What she said didn't come anywhere near that, and to assume that she would be responsible if somebody did, is to take away any responsibility and agency of that individual.

it's a child's defence. "Tony told me to do it" and if Tony told you to jump off a cliff would you? It's how we educate children that they are responsible for their own actions.

Pathetic.