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Old 08-08-2025, 08:37   #1696
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Maybe ship them over to Yorkshire?
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Old 08-08-2025, 08:55   #1697
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There are Palestinians from Gaza arriving daily in Yorkshire?
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Old 08-08-2025, 09:26   #1698
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Already here. Arriving daily.

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Yes lots of undocumented fighting age men who's country of origin is unknown
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Old 08-08-2025, 10:25   #1699
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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they were given Gaza and screwed it up.
Absolutely right! About 20 years back, every Israeli was removed by Israel from the Strip. Sort of reverse ethnic cleansing.

They could have used that opportunity to build hotels, farms and factories. Instead they dug tunnels and fired rockets. During that time, they were living in poverty.

Trump spoke about making Gaza into a riviera. They could have done this themselves 2 decades ago.
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Absolutely right! About 20 years back, every Israeli was removed by Israel from the Strip. Sort of reverse ethnic cleansing.

They could have used that opportunity to build hotels, farms and factories. Instead they dug tunnels and fired rockets. During that time, they were living in poverty.

Trump spoke about making Gaza into a riviera. They could have done this themselves 2 decades ago.
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Old 08-08-2025, 11:14   #1701
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Absolutely right! About 20 years back, every Israeli was removed by Israel from the Strip. Sort of reverse ethnic cleansing.

They could have used that opportunity to build hotels, farms and factories. Instead they dug tunnels and fired rockets. During that time, they were living in poverty.

Trump spoke about making Gaza into a riviera. They could have done this themselves 2 decades ago.
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Old 08-08-2025, 15:28   #1702
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Absolutely right! About 20 years back, every Israeli was removed by Israel from the Strip. Sort of reverse ethnic cleansing.

They could have used that opportunity to build hotels, farms and factories. Instead they dug tunnels and fired rockets. During that time, they were living in poverty.

Trump spoke about making Gaza into a riviera. They could have done this themselves 2 decades ago.
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Spot on.
Except for the fact that Israel imposed a blockade on the Gaza Strip since 2007, with the entry of goods only allowed for basic needs and humanitarian relief…
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Old 08-08-2025, 17:39   #1703
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Except for the fact that Israel imposed a blockade on the Gaza Strip since 2007, with the entry of goods only allowed for basic needs and humanitarian relief…
Was that before or after the rockets started shooting over towards Israel?
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Old 08-08-2025, 18:25   #1704
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US has no plans to recognise a Palestinian state

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Old 08-08-2025, 19:53   #1705
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Was that before or after the rockets started shooting over towards Israel?
What’s that got to do with the original point of
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They could have used that opportunity to build hotels, farms and factories
which you thought was

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Israel immediately imposed a blockade when Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in 2007, so there was no opportunity to build hotels, farms, and factories…
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Old 08-08-2025, 20:17   #1706
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Old 08-08-2025, 20:34   #1707
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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I'm sorry but Hugh's called this one right.
.....In his often twisted way. So not really right.

@45rpm had it right. Hamas, instead of espousing war with Israel, could have seized the opportunity to build a peaceful and prosperous territory.
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Old 08-08-2025, 23:03   #1708
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.....In his often twisted way. So not really right.

@45rpm had it right. Hamas, instead of espousing war with Israel, could have seized the opportunity to build a peaceful and prosperous territory.
Nope. Nice fantasy but without substantial funds and reliable connections to the outside World like airports, they were on a hiding to nothing.
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...could have seized the opportunity to build a peaceful and prosperous territory.
How exactly ?
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Have Hamas always been self funding then?

Didn't they have any friends anywhere nearby that would give them a helping hand and offer resources to get on with what they wanted to do?
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