Reform UK's chronicles

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Good news our rubbish labour council just lost an election for a new councillor to Reform

Reform councilors don't have a good track record of staying in the job when they find out they have to do something and are accountable.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/1...-in-six-weeks/
Who do you protest/moan about if you're the one in charge?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Reform councilors don't have a good track record of staying in the job when they find out they have to do something and are accountable.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/1...-in-six-weeks/
Who do you protest/moan about if you're the one in charge?

Anyone is better than who left. He was the finance officer who oversaw the accumulation of £1.8 billion of debt due to crazy get rich schemes. He then decides he will retire from his role and is inline for a fat pension and golden handshake.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceq7z71w8xno

https://www.ft.com/content/e5024825-...f-74af3faaaa64


The biggest problem at Warrington council was that there was not enough non labour councillors to oppose the stupid investments they made that nearly all failed dramatically.

Basically they believed they had the famous labour magic money tree

Wait ...

The council is to pay £1,200 a day for the lead envoy and £1,100 for the other envoys.

(There are 3 others).

So £4500 a day, £1.64 Million per year, for 5 years ?
Seems as if they were better off just £1.8 million in the red.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Paul

Wait ...
(There are 3 others).

So £4500 a day, £1.64 Million per year, for 5 years ?
Seems as if they were better off just £1.8 million in the red.

Paul it’s billion not million. Jobs for the boys springs to mind.It is rumoured the debt has increased to £1.9 billion. Somebody did a calculation and it means £15000 per man women and child in Warrington is in debt because let’s face it the council will not be paying it. The debt will be funded from increased council tax.

[Mr K]

I see the turn out was 18%, and less than 10% of the electorate voted for Reform . If the electorate give up on voting that's the time to worry.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I see the turn out was 18%, and less than 10% of the electorate voted for Reform . If the electorate give up on voting that's the time to worry.

I don’t care what the turn out is as long as the idiots that created the debt are kicked out. I don’t even care which party they are as long as they are not labour.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Good news our rubbish labour council just lost an election for a new councillor to Reform

That’s the way it’s going!

---------- Post added at 20:13 ---------- Previous post was at 20:12 ----------

Originally Posted by Mr K

I see the turn out was 18%, and less than 10% of the electorate voted for Reform . If the electorate give up on voting that's the time to worry.

So what percentage did the other parties get?…..

---------- Post added at 20:15 ---------- Previous post was at 20:13 ----------

Originally Posted by Mr K

Reform councilors don't have a good track record of staying in the job when they find out they have to do something and are accountable.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/1...-in-six-weeks/
Who do you protest/moan about if you're the one in charge?

Is that the best you’ve got? It’s a new party breaking new ground. It will find itself.

Concentrate on the policies and ask yourself why both Conservative and Labour voters are turning to Reform in their droves. That’s the real debate.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So what percentage did the other parties get?…..

Not sure OB, do the maths. But if less than 1 in 5 of the electorate voted, and less than half of those voted for the winner, then democracy has lost.

Originally Posted by Sirius

Paul it’s billion not million. .

Whoops, I totally misread that.

Even so, 1.6 Million per year seems an insane amount to be paying for a bit of help.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Not sure OB, do the maths.

I did. Reform got more votes that all the other parties put together.

Originally Posted by Mr K

But if less than 1 in 5 of the electorate voted, and less than half of those voted for the winner, then democracy has lost.

I agree, that’s not good, but such is the disillusionment with our main political parties, it is not surprising.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I did. Reform got more votes that all the other parties put together.

Take it, maths isn't your strong point then OB?

Bewsey and Whitecross by-election

Liberal Democrat, David Crowther – 223 votes
Labour, Maitane Akpan – 631 votes
Reform UK, John Anthony Roddy – 752 votes (elected)
Conservative, Stephen Howard Taylor – 116 votes
Rejected ballot papers total - 9

Turnout

18%

https://www.warrington.gov.uk/electionresults

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Not sure OB, do the maths. But if less than 1 in 5 of the electorate voted, and less than half of those voted for the winner, then democracy has lost.

Perhaps you need to check out most UK governments, nearly every one most of country didn't vote for them . That never stops them saying it's what the country wants

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Take it, maths isn't your strong point then OB?

https://www.warrington.gov.uk/electionresults

You do understand this was a vote for a councillor in a small ward within the Warrington region. This was not a major vote for the whole of Warrington.


Bewsey and Whitecross by-election
Liberal Democrat, David Crowther: 223 votes
Labour, Maitane Akpan: 631 votes
Reform UK, John Anthony Roddy: 752 votes (elected)
Conservative, Stephen Howard Taylor: 116 votes
Rejected ballot papers total: 9

Voting for more candidates than voter was entitled to: 1
Writing or mark by which voter could be identified: 1
Being unmarked or wholly void for uncertainty: 7
Electorate size: 9773

Ballot papers issued: 1731

Turnout: 17.7%

I believe Mr K was specifically responding (in his later post) to this point, which was not congruent with actuality

Reform got more votes that all the other parties put together.

Reform got 752 votes, all the other parties put together got 970 votes.

[papa smurf]

I'm glad we've worked out Reform won, i was on the edge of my seat, it was a real nail biter