Online Safety Bill Etc

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by nffc

Ok, so wouldn't that apply to the connection and not necessarily the person using it? With a mobile the person enabling that is pretty much always going to be the person using the handset. With a broadband connection the whole family would be using it. So adults would enable it meaning the kids would be able to access it too once it's been enabled on the connection?

Good point well made hadn’t thought about that …..

[Taf]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Good point well made hadn’t thought about that …..

EE have radio ads at the moment that say you can limit access times for your kids, and also block some "types of sites".

But guess what comes out top on a google search?

"How to turn off restrictions in EE?

To change the level of restriction for ALL your devices:
Open the EE app.
Go to the WiFi Controls dashboard on your app.
Scroll to Parental Controls.
You'll see a slider reading Off, Light, Moderate and Strict. Move the button to the setting you want."

[RichardCoulter]

Several porn sites now being investigated to see if they meet the required level of robust age checks.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Several porn sites now being investigated to see if they meet the required level of robust age checks.

"But mum - I was just checking to see if they had the required level of robust age checks!"

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Several porn sites now being investigated to see if they meet the required level of robust age checks.

And how do you know this ?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Several porn sites now being investigated to see if they meet the required level of robust age checks.

Comedy in its purest form.

[nffc]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Comedy in its purest form.

It's not the porn sites which is the worrying thing, arguably they should be making sure only appropriate aged adults see their content anyway.


It's more the fact this covers more than porn sites even in its current form, any site where users interact with other users is in scope (including forums, and that's why sites like x, reddit, discord, bluesky have all gone into age verification) and that ultimately they could just block content to UK users (not just children) if the government deems that it needs expanding.


I've seen reports recently of some of the protesting and stuff which has been happening but where watching footage has been blocked to uk connections, which is a slippery slope. People shouldn't need a VPN to see content which the government doesn't like.

We're now past the point where it's forgivable to have so many tech-illiterate politicians. I've said before, it's damaging that we have so many MPs who come from a humanities background, not only because they don't understand science, but also because they don't think anything can be binary. It keeps coming up with encryption, where they don't understand whether you have it or not. They believe you can negotiate with the principle of encryption to have it secure, unless the police want in, then it can stop working.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by nffc

It's not the porn sites which is the worrying thing, arguably they should be making sure only appropriate aged adults see their content anyway.


It's more the fact this covers more than porn sites even in its current form, any site where users interact with other users is in scope (including forums, and that's why sites like x, reddit, discord, bluesky have all gone into age verification) and that ultimately they could just block content to UK users (not just children) if the government deems that it needs expanding.


I've seen reports recently of some of the protesting and stuff which has been happening but where watching footage has been blocked to uk connections, which is a slippery slope. People shouldn't need a VPN to see content which the government doesn't like.

but that's how it works in communist dictatorships

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Hugh

"But mum - I was just checking to see if they had the required level of robust age checks!"

It will be the most thorough and detailed investigation since investigations began.

Time to buy shares in Aveeno

[nffc]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

And how do you know this ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y2xx6z6eko

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Several porn sites now being investigated to see if they meet the required level of robust age checks.

Which takes about 10 seconds, load the site, do you get an age check. Done.

Of course, ofcom will turn it into weeks of work

---------- Post added at 13:15 ---------- Previous post was at 13:06 ----------

Originally Posted by nffc

It's not the porn sites which is the worrying thing, arguably they should be making sure only appropriate aged adults see their content anyway.

It's more the fact this covers more than porn sites even in its current form, any site where users interact with other users is in scope (including forums, and that's why sites like x, reddit, discord, bluesky have all gone into age verification) and that ultimately they could just block content to UK users (not just children) if the government deems that it needs expanding.

Here is the problem.
If this was purely just for porn sites, I doubt so many people would care, but its been expanded way beyond this, and is just incredibly stupid now.
Many sites will not go into all the complication of age checks, and just do what some porn sites have already done, i.e. just block the UK completely.

Those that do age checks will lose many UK visitors as no matter how the goverment protests they are safe, people dont trust age check systems.
I am one of them, will not hand any personal details over to any of them, I'll just use a VPN where necessary (and no, I dont mean porn sites).

Its one of the most dumb and poorly thought out laws ever, it wont stop what they think it will, but will kill the UKs (direct) access to many parts of the net.

China, North Korea & Russia would be proud of such a system.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

Which takes about 10 seconds, load the site, do you get an age check. Done.

Of course, ofcom will turn it into weeks of work

---------- Post added at 13:15 ---------- Previous post was at 13:06 ----------


Here is the problem.
If this was purely just for porn sites, I doubt so many people would care, but its been expanded way beyond this, and is just incredibly stupid now.
Many sites will not go into all the complication of age checks, and just do what some porn sites have already done, i.e. just block the UK completely.

Those that do age checks will lose many UK visitors as no matter how the goverment protests they are safe, people dont trust age check systems.
I am one of them, will not hand any personal details over to any of them, I'll just use a VPN where necessary (and no, I dont mean porn sites).

Its one of the most dumb and poorly thought out laws ever, it wont stop what they think it will, but will kill the UKs (direct) access to many parts of the net.

China, North Korea & Russia would be proud of such a system.

Not quite, it will be easy to check those without age verification that should have it. I'm told that it's those with it, but it isn't robust enough, that take longer to check. Each site on it's own won't take too long to check, but there is a lot for their staff time go through.

They are being proactive as well as dealing with reports from members of the public.

[Carth]

*dealing with reports from members of the public*

Please Miss, I google searched images for Banana, you wouldn't believe what came up on my screen

Originally Posted by Carth

*dealing with reports from members of the public*

Please Miss, I google searched images for Banana, you wouldn't believe what came up on my screen

It was probably referring to your previous search history preferences…