Starmer’s chronicles

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Deficit figures: 2001/02 £5.5bn, 2002/03 £34.1bn, 2003/04 £41.7bn, 2004/05 £49.1bn, 2005/06 £44.2bn, 2006/07 £39.9bn, 2007/08 £45bn.
All before 2008 crash.
If the 2009/10 deficit of £157.7bn was purely down to the crash, then the deficit would've quickly dropped dramatically back to around £40+bn without austerity. It didn't, so there was massive Labour inbuilt excess spending.

Not sure where you're getting those figures as you don't give a link but this chart presents the information far better.


https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/u...ficit_analysis

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

a mythical city of gold

That's what I thought of still not following, this is not dig just being stupid,

[papa smurf]

Starmer seals migrant returns deal with France, they let an average of 820 people per week cross the channel and we get to send back 50 per week

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-king-12593360

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Not sure where you're getting those figures as you don't give a link but this chart presents the information far better.


https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/u...ficit_analysis

From here. Official Government source.


Even with your figures, my point still stands, about if it was solely down to the crash, then it would've plummeted all by itself. It didn't. If the post-2010 figures were high because of the crash, then were was the austerity?
The Local Housing Allowance rules of 2007, heavily increased the housing benefit bill. Landlords suddenly knew how much rent they could charge housing benefit claimants.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Starmer seals migrant returns deal with France, they let an average of 820 people per week cross the channel and we get to send back 50 per week

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-king-12593360

Somehow you missed this bit showing that Brexit made controlling migration harder. Guilty conscience?

Brexit to blame for boat crossings

Moving on to the small boats returns agreement that Starmer just announced, Macron again takes aim at Brexit.

He acknowledges that leaving the EU was not the PM's doing, but says that people supporting Brexit argued it would make controlling migration easier - but the opposite was true.

Macron says that leaving the bloc meant there was no way for people to be returned to mainland Europe after people crossed the Channel.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-king-12593360

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Originally Posted by nomadking

From here. Official Government source.


Even with your figures, my point still stands, about if it was solely down to the crash, then it would've plummeted all by itself. It didn't. If the post-2010 figures were high because of the crash, then were was the austerity?
The Local Housing Allowance rules of 2007, heavily increased the housing benefit bill. Landlords suddenly knew how much rent they could charge housing benefit claimants.

Simpliified:

Economy tanks. Therefore less tax revenue and more benefits to pay out to those not working.

That doesn't mean that the government does not cut spending elsewhere eg defence, councils, infrastructure, etc.

[papa smurf]

Unite votes to 're-examine relationship with Labour' - and suspend Rayner's membership


Sharon Graham, the boss of Unite, said in a statement: "Unite is crystal clear it will call out bad employers regardless of the colour of their rosette.

"Angela Rayner has had every opportunity to intervene and resolve this dispute, but has instead backed a rogue council that has peddled lies and smeared its workers fighting huge pay cuts."

Graham continued: "The disgraceful actions of the government and a so-called Labour council, is essentially fire and rehire and makes a joke of the Employment Relations Act promises.

"People up and down the country are asking whose side is the Labour government on and coming up with the answer not workers."

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-king-12593360

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Somehow you missed this bit showing that Brexit made controlling migration harder. Guilty conscience?

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-king-12593360

Yes that is another 'inconvenient truth' for Brexit voters.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

So, you blame Labour for the initial effects of the Global Financial Crisis, but the Conservatives get a free pass for the effects of COVID and the Ukraine War…

No, I blame the source of the problem on the financial crash, which was nothing to do with Labour.

But it was well reported at the time that Labour failed to bolster our reserves during the ‘golden years’ and spent far too much. Had they managed the economy properly, we could have better withstood the crisis.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Brexit

Remind me, when was Brexit?

[Russ]

Back in the days when we were told a vote for Brexit was a vote for Britain’s steel industry.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Russ

Back in the days when we were told a vote for Brexit was a vote for Britain’s steel industry.

So, well before your incitement below?

Originally Posted by Russ

People of Scotland, we are relying on your aim with regards to bags of shit.

Brown goes well with Orange apparently.

Keep an eye out for Plod, Russ .

[Russ]

I wouldn’t say “well before”. I’d have said the same kind of thing during his first term.

And “incitement”? Ohhhh the drama!

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Russ

I wouldn’t say “well before”. I’d have said the same kind of thing during his first term.

And “incitement”? Ohhhh the drama!

Haha, bottler!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Haha, bottler!

Well this bottler hasn’t changed his mind

999 is the number I think you’re looking for.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Russ

Well this bottler hasn’t changed his mind

999 is the number I think you’re looking for.

Ohhhh the drama Russky!