Israel v Iran conflict

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Dude111

All this fighting and bickering needs to end before something unreversable happens

... Then Iran carries on with its nuke ambitions and something irreversible happens.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

... Then Iran carries on with its nuke ambitions and something irreversible happens.

Or...

Reinstate something like the previous JCPOA, which was working...

[Sephiroth]

no, it was not working. See the IAEA report for details.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Or...

Reinstate something like the previous JCPOA, which was working...

It was working according to everyone but donnie, also didn't Tulsi Gabbard say in March that Iran was not building a nuclear bomb and the Ayatolla had not authorised the restarting of the nuclear weapons program

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It was working according to everyone but donnie, also didn't Tulsi Gabbard say in March that Iran was not building a nuclear bomb and the Ayatolla had not authorised the restarting of the nuclear weapons program

... and didn't the IAEA indicate the opposite?

Are you really so taken in as to believe that Iran, dedicated to the destruction of Israel, isn't refining all that Uranium for a nuke? Really?

I suspect that you just don't like Israel.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I suspect that you just don't like Israel.

Being hell bent on genocide, doesn't make you friends.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

no, it was not working. See the IAEA report for details.

The IAEA Report is from May 2025 - I am referring to the previous JCPOA which Trump withdrew from in 2018, when he said he would negotiate a newer, better deal*...

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...-Trump-Israel/

*Reader, he didn't...

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

... and didn't the IAEA indicate the opposite?

Are you really so taken in as to believe that Iran, dedicated to the destruction of Israel, isn't refining all that Uranium for a nuke? Really?

I suspect that you just don't like Israel.

It’s like Netanyahu himself has joined CF

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Being hell bent on genocide, doesn't make you friends.

But what you critics of Israel dodge is answering the question of whether or not Israel should defending itself against the nukes that Iran is building.

You lot (the usual suspects) just cannot bring yourselves to answer that. I think that MrM has managed an answer - but that needed to be dragged from him.

Here's a refresher on recent events:

1. Iran has a publicly stated policy for the destruction of the State of Israel.

2. For years, Hamas and Hezbollah (Iran proxies) have lobbed bombs into Israel's civilian settlements.

3. Oct 7th 2024 was when Hamas cruelly massacred c. 1200 Israelis and kidnapped 250+ more into Gaza.

4. Israel rained retribution onto Hamas Gaza with a huge toll in collateral damage/deaths (that some call "genocide").

5. Israel taught Hezbollah a lesson because they were raining missiles down on Israeli settlements.

6. The IAEA declares Iran to be in breach of it's Uranium enrichment obligations and that they have enough refined Uranium to build several nukes.

7. Israel attacks Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure in totally obvious self defence.

Quite simple, Israel is defending itself against the murderous madness of the Iran regime and its proxies.

Those who can't see that are steeped in dangerous prejudice.



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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

It’s like Netanyahu himself has joined CF

Quite frankly, he and his orthodox nut-jobs can go and do one.

This is about the survival of Israel, the only regional democracy and the home of millions of citizens who want rid of Netanyahu.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Being hell bent on genocide, doesn't make you friends.

Which is why Iran doesn't have any.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

But what you critics of Israel dodge is answering the question of whether or not Israel should defending itself against the nukes that Iran is building.

You lot (the usual suspects) just cannot bring yourselves to answer that. I think that MrM has managed an answer - but that needed to be dragged from him.

Here's a refresher on recent events:

1. Iran has a publicly stated policy for the destruction of the State of Israel.

2. For years, Hamas and Hezbollah (Iran proxies) have lobbed bombs into Israel's civilian settlements.

3. Oct 7th 2024 was when Hamas cruelly massacred c. 1200 Israelis and kidnapped 250+ more into Gaza.

4. Israel rained retribution onto Hamas Gaza with a huge toll in collateral damage/deaths (that some call "genocide").

5. Israel taught Hezbollah a lesson because they were raining missiles down on Israeli settlements.

6. The IAEA declares Iran to be in breach of it's Uranium enrichment obligations and that they have enough refined Uranium to build several nukes.

7. Israel attacks Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure in totally obvious self defence.

Quite simple, Israel is defending itself against the murderous madness of the Iran regime and its proxies.

Those who can't see that are steeped in dangerous prejudice.



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Quite frankly, he and his orthodox nut-jobs can go and do one.

This is about the survival of Israel, the only regional democracy and the home of millions of citizens who want rid of Netanyahu.

So what’s the difference ?

Israeli government full of nut jobs
Iranian government full of nut jobs

One side has killed tens of thousands of innocent people , has been accused of genocide and war crimes

The other side was in discussions around uranium enrichment , Israel decided not good enough and attacked


It it was only the governments impacted that would be impacted I’d say let the lot of them wipe each other out and we could build a nice big center parcs or a riviera

Wait……

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So what’s the difference ?

Israeli government full of nut jobs
Iranian government full of nut jobs

One side has killed tens of thousands of innocent people , has been accused of genocide and war crimes

The other side was in discussions around uranium enrichment , Israel decided not good enough and attacked


It it was only the governments impacted that would be impacted I’d say let the lot of them wipe each other out and we could build a nice big center parcs or a riviera

Wait……

Ridiculous. Try treating the subject seriously.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Ridiculous. Try treating the subject seriously.

Which bit isn’t correct ?

Has Israel eliminated huge amounts of innocent peoples lives ? Yes, well documented

Has Iran eliminated huge amounts of innocent israeli lives ? No, would they not able to ? Yes

Stop championing Israel when they’re just as big a bunch of shithouses as Iran

You’ve already said that Netanyahu and his cronies are nut jobs, perhaps if that regime was changed (as well as Iran’s ) things may be a little bit more peaceful

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Which bit isn’t correct ?

Has Israel eliminated huge amounts of innocent peoples lives ? Yes, well documented

Has Iran eliminated huge amounts of innocent israeli lives ? No, would they not able to ? Yes

Stop championing Israel when they’re just as big a bunch of shithouses as Iran

You’ve already said that Netanyahu and his cronies are nut jobs, perhaps if that regime was changed (as well as Iran’s ) things may be a little bit more peaceful

Whatever. Your approach is completely warped.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Whatever. Your approach is completely warped.

No my approach is to take a balanced perspective and realise that there’s blame at both sides.

Now, would you like to answer the question and continue the discussion ? Or shall I just pick up the rattle and put it back into your pram ?