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		|  08-05-2025, 09:10 | #1111 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Miliband’s nonsense has played just as squarely into the election results as the stiffing by Starmer of the pensioners.
 In today’s PM questions, Kemi successfully skewered Starmer who referred to notes on every question without going near an answer.  I doubt that the swing voters watch PM’s questions, but the media will have their regular weekly fun pulling that liar apart.
 |  Lol, both in bad form but Starmer given an easy ride as she couldn't mention Labour's local election results for fear of highlighting her Party's failings here too. Embarrassing to see India later correcting her on the trade deal as well! Truly Reform's useless idiot.
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	I don't know about "piss weak beer", but I do know the stuff left me with a headache every time I drank it.  We need a trade deal with the US just to get bottled beer brewed in the UK.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  like Mc donalds /KFC/ swimming pool chicken/ royd rage beef /exploding cars/piss weak beer...... |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien   |  Devil's in the detail but looks like another diplomatic success. King Charles's letter may have worked!
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	Is it?  Maybe so - but it could be argued that the UK was low hanging fruit for Trump, who wants the wider world to reduce tariffs against the US and hence an early deal with someone is a sign to others.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Devil's in the detail but looks like another diplomatic success. King Charles's letter may have worked! |  
 
 
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		|  08-05-2025, 09:28 | #1115 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  I don't know about "piss weak beer", but I do know the stuff left me with a headache every time I drank it.  We need a trade deal with the US just to get bottled beer brewed in the UK.
 Starmer is a good example of "piss weak beer".
 
 |  Plenty of US beers like Coors, Budweiser, Miller, Brooklyn are brewed in the UK. Not sure what your point is.
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 |  On paper,  we don't have the bargaining power of larger blocs like the EU but we should be more agile. So theoretically we should get a quicker but poorer deal. Let's see, other factors at play too.
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		|  08-05-2025, 09:33 | #1116 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Plenty of US beers like Coors, Budweiser, Miller, Brooklyn are brewed in the UK. Not sure what your point is. |  
 I should add that it is 20 years since my last US trip and so there may well be European beers available there now.
 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Plenty of US beers like Coors, Budweiser, Miller, Brooklyn are brewed in the UK. Not sure what your point is.
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 On paper,  we don't have the bargaining power of larger blocs like the EU but we should be more agile. So theoretically we should get a quicker but poorer deal. Let's see, other factors at play too.
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 In this regard, I'm caught between Trump the bad egg and Trump the mischievous bugger out to rattle the EU.
 
 
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		|  08-05-2025, 09:36 | #1117 |  
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			[QUOTE=1andrew1;36196261]Plenty of US beers like Coors, Budweiser, Miller, Brooklyn are brewed in the UK. Not sure what your point is.
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 On paper,  we don't have the bargaining power of larger blocs like the EU but we should be more agile. So theoretically we should get a quicker but poorer deal. Let's see, other factors at play too.[/QUOTE]
 
 don't forget "the EU was set up to screw the USA" they aint popular with Trump
 
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		|  08-05-2025, 09:38 | #1118 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Alternatives to US beer is my point.
 I should add that it is 20 years since my last US trip and so there may well be European beers available there now.
 
 
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 Ah - the EU.  If Trump is true to his word, he'll not make it easy for the EU.
 
 In this regard, I'm caught between Trump the bad egg and Trump the mischievous bugger out to rattle the EU.
 
 |  Beer has improved drastically over there - lots and lots of local microbreweries.
 
Pre-COVID (and literally when it kicked off), we had, over a number of years this century, visited New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Cape Cod, South Carolina, Georgia, California, Florida, and Louisiana, and they all had a wide range of decent beers from the non-Major breweries.
		 
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		|  08-05-2025, 10:10 | #1119 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Beer has improved drastically over there - lots and lots of local microbreweries.
 Pre-COVID (and literally when it kicked off), we had, over a number of years this century, visited New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Cape Cod, South Carolina, Georgia, California, Florida, and Louisiana, and they all had a wide range of decent beers from the non-Major breweries.
 |  Yeah, the US have really upped their game on beers. Prohibition killed the brewing tradition in the states and it has taken a long time to recover the skills lost. That said, the loss of the traditional brewing industry means that new breweries do what the hell they want and make really interesting stuff, often taking the best of older brewing techniques and mixing them up.
 
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		|  08-05-2025, 10:15 | #1120 |  
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  Yeah, the US have really upped their game on beers. |  Pah, we could still out-drink them any day of the week.
		 
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		|  08-05-2025, 10:23 | #1121 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Nothing to be proud of. |  TBF it's wales they have one pint then spend the rest of the day arguing who's round it is next
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  TBF it's wales they have one pint then spend the rest of the day arguing who's round it is next |  I wouldn’t know, I haven’t touched alcohol since January 2011.  What does this have to do with Labour anyway?
		 
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					Originally Posted by Russ  I wouldn’t know, I haven’t touched alcohol since January 2011.  What does this have to do with Labour anyway? |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  You mentioned something about "we could still out-drink them".  But since you're abstinent you are probably unqualified to have made that remark. |  Doesn’t mean I don’t socialise with people who drink.
 
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