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				She stopped this year, these free tickets were from December 2024. 
 
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 why?- didn't he get any
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-05-2025, 17:45
			
			
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				why?- didn't he get any 
			
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 She probably gained £400 worth of tickets but the Party will more than pay for it in the upcoming by-elections.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-05-2025, 19:17
			
			
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			Does anyone actually care if they get freebies or not? Celebs get them but I don't hear anyone moaning about it!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-05-2025, 19:48
			
			
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				Does anyone actually care if they get freebies or not? Celebs get them but I don't hear anyone moaning about it! 
			
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 Celebs don't take pensioners winter fuel allowance off them and make them pay income tax at such a hideously low threshold
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Does anyone actually care if they get freebies or not? Celebs get them but I don't hear anyone moaning about it! 
			
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 Celebs are given them in return for promoting the products and firms. They DO get into trouble if they don't declare that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-05-2025, 20:26
			
			
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			I asked if anyone really cares ,I certainly don't.  And who doesn't love a freebie anyway!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I asked if anyone really cares ,I certainly don't.  And who doesn't love a freebie anyway! 
			
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 In her position of power, there's potential for conflicts of interest and being accused of being bought off.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-05-2025, 23:49
			
			
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				Does anyone actually care if they get freebies or not? Celebs get them but I don't hear anyone moaning about it! 
			
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 They might be inclined to give those companies favourable treatment if they're getting stuff for free.
 
Practice should be banned. I would also ban civil servants and politicians from taking jobs in private companies with which they may have a conflict of interest for a set number of years.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				They might be inclined to give those companies favourable treatment if they're getting stuff for free. 
 
Practice should be banned. I would also ban civil servants and politicians from taking jobs in private companies with which they may have a conflict of interest for a set number of years. 
			
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 Point taken, never thought of it like that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				They might be inclined to give those companies favourable treatment if they're getting stuff for free. 
 
Practice should be banned. I would also ban civil servants and politicians from taking jobs in private companies with which they may have a conflict of interest for a set number of years. 
			
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 Exactly and I agree.  When I worked for Local Government we were forbidden from accepting gifts as it was said it could be viewed as bribery.
 
People are wondering if the Tories will want a new leader, but, after last night, I wonder if this will also apply to the Labour Party??
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			If you read this thread back for 2025, you'll notice that there's very little said about Starmer by the known left leaning forum members. 
 
Such people have mainly commented on Farage and the Tories rather than defending Labour. 
 
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				If you read this thread back for 2025, you'll notice that there's very little said about Starmer by the known left leaning forum members. 
 
Such people have mainly commented on Farage and the Tories rather than defending Labour. 
 
This tells me that they are not impressed by Starmer but are too embarrassed to say so. 
 
			
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