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		|  29-04-2025, 19:21 | #1021 |  
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Rwanda costs us hundreds of millions and didn’t work. 
 Neither do you.
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Have you worked out yet how much it’s costing us, on a continuing basis, to house them in hotels?
 
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:22 | #1022 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Rwanda would have stopped the boats, |  But….it didn’t.
		 
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:24 | #1023 |  
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					Originally Posted by Russ  But….it didn’t. |  No. Too many bleeding heart liberals prevented better progress being made.
 
It would have worked, but it wasn’t given a chance, was it?
		 
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:30 | #1024 |  
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					Originally Posted by Russ  But….it didn’t. |  Because of the blocking by the troublemakers. It was never really allowed to start.
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:31 | #1025 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  No. Too many bleeding heart liberals prevented better progress being made.
 It would have worked, but it wasn’t given a chance, was it?
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:34 | #1026 |  
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					Originally Posted by Russ  How, when the Tories were in charge? |  They were in charge, yes, and a General election was looming. They couldn’t go for a final push and then face more legal action because time was not on their side.
 
You keep saying it wouldn’t have worked, but you never say why.
 
The human rights lawyers wouldn’t have put so much into opposing it if they thought that.
		 
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:39 | #1027 |  
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			Is any migration good migration? I don't mean better off financially. I mean where they come from is bad. The life migrants build is invalid in this question. I'm just questioning migration itself.
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:46 | #1028 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  They were in charge, yes, and a General election was looming. |  Looming?
 
Rwanda was signed in 2022. 
 
The GE was in 2024.
 
£700m.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  The human rights lawyers wouldn’t have put so much into opposing it if they thought that.
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		|  29-04-2025, 19:57 | #1029 |  
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Looming?
 Rwanda was signed in 2022.
 
 The GE was in 2024.
 
 £700m.
 
 |  Yes it was, and as you well know it faced huge opposition from Labour in the Commons and a barrage of legal cases brought by human rights lawyers that had to be heard first. That is not evidence it wouldn’t have worked, they were just obstacles put in the way that had to be negotiated.
 
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Maybe these lawyers just thought there was something wrong with sending asylum seekers to a country which wasn't safe (we accepted asylum seekers from there).
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		|  29-04-2025, 20:03 | #1030 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Yes it was, and as you well know it faced huge opposition from Labour in the Commons and a barrage of legal cases brought by human rights lawyers that had to be heard first. That is not evidence it wouldn’t have worked, they were just obstacles put in the way that had to be negotiated.
 Are you having problems with your memory, Russ?
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Maybe the reason there were challenges was that sending them to an unsafe country was the wrong thing to do?
 
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  They were do-gooders making money for themselves, nothing more. And at great cost to taxpayers. |  You genuinely have no idea how Lawyers work, do you?
		 
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		|  29-04-2025, 20:58 | #1032 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  I never credited you with enough intelligence to follow an admin request and you didn't disappoint... |  So it seems, it better not happen again. Take note OB.
		 
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			Better late than never but Reeves must now be on a future re-shuffle list. 
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		| Rachel Reeves under investigation by standards watchdog over theatre tickets 
 The Chancellor is understood to have referred herself to the parliamentary commissioner for standards over the late declaration.
 
 Rachel Reeves is under investigation by the parliamentary standards watchdog after a late declaration of free theatre tickets.
 
 The Chancellor is understood to have referred herself to Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, over the late declaration.
 
 The tickets from the National Theatre were accepted and received on December 27, but were not declared on the members’ register of interests until March 27.
 
 According to parliamentary rules, MPs must update any changes to their financial interests within 28 days.
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  I thought she had stopped taking freebies |  She stopped this year, these free tickets were from December 2024.
 
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