Reform UK's chronicles

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

During the election campaign.

Edited

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Originally Posted by Chris

It is objectively funny that you said this with (what I assume to be) a straight face.

I was wondering what happened to Graham…

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

It is objectively funny that you said this with (what I assume to be) a straight face.

Indeed, all humans are biased.

[Russ]

So there were 4 council by-elections yesterday.

Reform won 0.

Interestingly that’s now 240 council by-elections since the general election, with just 14 seats won by Reform.

Lib Dems-level results again.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Russ

So there were 4 council by-elections yesterday.

Reform won 0.

Interestingly that’s now 240 council by-elections since the general election, with just 14 seats won by Reform.

Lib Dems-level results again.

Reform won Marine (Arun). Their vote in the other three was in the 20% range along with the others.

Originally Posted by Russ

So there were 4 council by-elections yesterday.

Reform won 0.

You may want to recheck that, it does look like they won 1.

Marine (Arun) Council By-Election Result:

RFM: 26.0% (New)
LDM: 25.2% (-2.8)
LAB: 20.1% (-1.1)
CON: 16.3% (-1.3)
GRN: 9.8% (New)
IND: 2.6% (New)

No IND (-33.4) as previous.

Reform GAIN from Independent.

https://www.markpack.org.uk/174621/l...l-by-election/

[Russ]

Ah right, 1.

1.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

How many more PMs will it take for you to realise that's simply impossible?

That is your highly negative outlook, so why are we surprised?

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Originally Posted by Russ

I don’t recall Labour blaming everything on illegal immigrants .

No. From my recollection they showed every sign of welcoming them. They trotted out ‘’policies’ to replace the Rwanda scheme that anyone with a brain knew would not work. Now they are paying the French to issue these people with life jackets as they leave rather than turning them back. Great initiative, Kier!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No. From my recollection they showed every sign of welcoming them.

Really? From my recollection, they deported more illegals in 6 months than the Tories did in the previous 12 months

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Russ

Really? From my recollection, they deported more illegals in 6 months than the Tories did in the previous 12 months

Might this below be the truth around the government's boast:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyw8jw11jwo

Sir Keir Starmer has highlighted his government efforts to tackle illegal immigration, saying: "We've returned more than 24,000 people who have no right to be here."

He was speaking at an international summit in London aimed at tackling people-smuggling gangs.

The Home Office has also posted a video on X, showing people being escorted onto planes by immigration enforcement officials, with the words: "we have removed more than 24,000 people".

But the claim is misleading. The government's latest figures show that only 6,339 of these were "enforced returns"., external The majority were "voluntary returns" - and a significant number of these happen without the government's direct involvement or even knowledge.

[Russ]

So it matters more to you how someone returns rather than the fact they actually returned?

I sense an agenda…

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Russ

So it matters more to you how someone returns rather than the fact they actually returned?

I sense an agenda…

What matters to me is that the government's misleading spin hides the facts that Reform UK are accurately reporting. And you've fallen for the government's spin.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Might this below be the truth around the government's boast:

[URL="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyw8jw11jwo"]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyw8jw11jwo[/URL

How does this figure compare to last year?On its own it does not mean much.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What matters to me is that the government's misleading spin hides the facts that Reform UK are accurately reporting. And you've fallen for the government's spin.

so true, following trumps lead perhaps

[Sephiroth]

Reform simply want to stop the boats. The reported bussing of people to Calais ahead of the summer is a grim warning to us that we will be importing both sides of the Ethiopian warring groups (there will be factional fighting); goodness knows how many trained terrorists/jihadists; many indented people who'll have to turn to crime to pay their gangmasters, etc.

[Russ]

Not a single person on a boat has put peoples mortgages up, underfunded the NHS or spaffed £32bn to their mates for faulty PPE.