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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Yeah far better they die, something else for you to cry about, once they're safely ashore the French ask for the life jackets back, presumably so they can give them to more immigrants
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No, I didn’t mean that, as I’m sure you well know. Instead of giving them life jackets, they should be preventing them from leaving. That’s what we pay the French to do.
Have you grasped that now?
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20-04-2025, 13:36
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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No, I didn’t mean that, as I’m sure you well know.
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Well I read it as he did, you worded it very badly. 
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20-04-2025, 14:51
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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It’s a shame that France provides life jackets for these illegal immigrants to Britain.
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No, I didn’t mean that, as I’m sure you well know. Instead of giving them life jackets, they should be preventing them from leaving. That’s what we pay the French to do.
Have you grasped that now?
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As I well knew, how was anyone supposed to extrapolate that from what you posted? If you don't want to be mistaken for one of those thick right wing nut jobs whose favourite saying is push 'em back out to sea then don't post like one, have you grasped that.
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20-04-2025, 17:56
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
My last sentence made clear what I meant. We are paying the French to stop the crossings. Clearly, they are not doing that, are they?
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20-04-2025, 18:14
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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My last sentence made clear what I meant. We are paying the French to stop the crossings. Clearly, they are not doing that, are they?
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No it never as Paul thought the same thing, anyone would've.
Yeah if only we hadn't surrendered our ability to send them back we wouldn't have to pay France anything
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20-04-2025, 18:36
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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It’s a shame that France provides life jackets for these illegal immigrants to Britain. What the hell are we paying the French for?
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Lifejackets, escort boats, etc.)
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No it never as Paul thought the same thing, anyone would've.
Yeah if only we hadn't surrendered our ability to send them back we wouldn't have to pay France anything
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We should be turning the small boats back. This may well cause on international incident, but so long as we are resolute, and we've stuck it to the French cheats (Macron in particular), the migrants will stop coming.
Fat chance of something as sensible as that happening.
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20-04-2025, 19:06
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Why the hell do people think we can simply “send the boats back”? The French (or any other country) have no requirement to accept them and could theoretically send them straight back to us.
As previously mentioned, the result of a certain referendum from circa 2016 (which I won’t name in case it triggers anyone) took away our legal right to return these people.
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20-04-2025, 20:06
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Why the hell do people think we can simply “send the boats back”? The French (or any other country) have no requirement to accept them and could theoretically send them straight back to us.
As previously mentioned, the result of a certain referendum from circa 2016 (which I won’t name in case it triggers anyone) took away our legal right to return these people.
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Being pedantic there is a difference between "send the boats back" and "turning them around".
The first suggest they have arrived, they second suggests they have not yet done so. Therefore they could be "turned around" in the Channel.
I could be wrong but thought I'd throw it in there.
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20-04-2025, 20:29
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Being pedantic there is a difference between "send the boats back" and "turning them around".
The first suggest they have arrived, they second suggests they have not yet done so. Therefore they could be "turned around" in the Channel.
I could be wrong but thought I'd throw it in there.
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It would be a start. Really going to start something with this thought. Don't offer them any support what so ever. Hope that is clear  any charity that stepped in, has there status removed. Any council offering help loses any government monies .
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20-04-2025, 20:33
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Being pedantic there is a difference between "send the boats back" and "turning them around".
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Either way, the same principle applies.
No EU country would be obliged to accept them.
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20-04-2025, 21:04
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Why the hell do people think we can simply “send the boats back”? The French (or any other country) have no requirement to accept them and could theoretically send them straight back to us.
As previously mentioned, the result of a certain referendum from circa 2016 (which I won’t name in case it triggers anyone) took away our legal right to return these people.
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Ah - there you (nearly) have it. The international incident that would arise if we continually turned the boats round is what's needed to bring this to a head and get it resolved.
It's a matter of national security and we can't be having these fit young men of terrorist age or indented to a gangmaster, invading the UK.
Starmer told us how he'd try to resolve it but now knows his plan is doomed for obvious reasons.
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Either way, the same principle applies.
No EU country would be obliged to accept them.
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We know that. But they wouldn't be landing in the UK if we turned them round. Someone would land them. We just have to be hard-nosed and resolute.
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20-04-2025, 21:31
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And risk our standing on the international stage by breaking several international laws by refusing them entry (clue: it’s not just about the ECHR)?
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20-04-2025, 21:57
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And risk our standing on the international stage by breaking several international laws by refusing them entry (clue: it’s not just about the ECHR)?
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Some of the "international stage" have a similar problem.
Anyway, this thread is about Starmer - and he hasn't the guts to do what I and many others think should be done.
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20-04-2025, 22:10
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Yes it’s about Starmer, and why he can’t just “turn them around”.
It’s not about having “the guts”, Starmer doesn’t have “the power” - again, removed from us after the result of 2016.
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22-04-2025, 07:27
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So the nationalities of criminals will now be released under Labour.
According to Reinhard Jenner reckons the “British people deserves to know the truth about migrant crime”.
Well true but couldn’t his party have released those figures oh, in 14 years? Why didn’t they publish migrant crime?
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