Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Starship Troopers reboot

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Entertainment > Film & Cinema
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Starship Troopers reboot
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 21-03-2025, 16:22   #1
Anonymouse
RIP Tigger - 12 years?!
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bolton
Age: 59
Services: EE Superfast Broadband
Posts: 1,548
Anonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appeal
Anonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appeal
Thumbs down Starship Troopers reboot

Oh dear. I forgot to note the URL, but one reviewer reckons the reboot is doomed to fail because it isn't satirical as Verhoeven's was.

I am honestly sick and tired of reading comments about "fascism" in Heinlein's novel. He complained in Expanded Universe (I forget which one) that people seem incapable of reading English, and I agree. The facts are:

1) In a fascist society no-one votes. They do in the novel.
2) It might glorify the infantryman somewhat, but that's because he deserves it. The term "military grade" does not, as too many people think, mean top-notch gear - it means the cheapest and most basic equipment that can still do the job.
3) It is NOT automatically true that veteran = discharged soldier. They are not necessarily synonymous. A cook on a starship will be subjected to minimum risk, and someone in R & D (which Carl was in the novel) at even lower risk, but they would still be entitled to vote at the end of their two-year term...and their vote would count equally as much as that of a 50-year veteran with both legs blown off.
4) The whole idea is that every politician and voter has proved through arduous (but not necessarily dangerous) service that they place the welfare of the group ahead of personal advantage (a key point; it would do no good for people to vote rationally if the politicians were not similarly constituted). I doubt there are many politicians who can say that and mean it.

The problem, I suspect, is that the detractors don't like the idea of having to qualify for the vote, preferring our current 'warm body' policy...and look where that got us, in the UK or in the States - we have Starmer, they have Trump.

Verhoeven should have read the entire novel...after studying English in more detail than he apparently did.
__________________
"People tend to confuse the words 'new' and 'improved'."
- Agent Phil Coulson, S.H.I.E.L.D.

WINDOWS 11, ANYONE?!

Last edited by Anonymouse; 21-03-2025 at 16:25.
Anonymouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 21-03-2025, 16:55   #2
ianch99
cf.mega poster
 
ianch99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,725
ianch99 is cast in bronzeianch99 is cast in bronzeianch99 is cast in bronzeianch99 is cast in bronze
ianch99 is cast in bronzeianch99 is cast in bronzeianch99 is cast in bronzeianch99 is cast in bronze
Re: Starship Troopers reboot

"Would you like to know more?"
__________________
Unifi UCG Ultra + Unifi APs | VM 1Gbps
ianch99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2025, 16:57   #3
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,443
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Starship Troopers reboot

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...ks-1236163598/

Also, if I remember correctly, being a teacher or a Civil Servant enfranchised a Citizen., as they counted as Federal Service (after two years).
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.

Last edited by Hugh; 21-03-2025 at 17:10.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2025, 17:37   #4
Chris
Trollsplatter
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North of Watford
Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests
Posts: 38,028
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Re: Starship Troopers reboot

And if you read Heinlein’s corpus more broadly, you will find those who roll their eyes at the space marines, principally the officers of the Interplanetary Patrol, one of whom takes a very dim view of Matt Dodson’s request to transfer there.

Gosh I loved Space Cadet. Read it over and over again at school.

Heinlein is not in any way uncritical of the characters and scenarios he creates.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2025, 18:31   #5
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,443
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Starship Troopers reboot

First Heinlein I read as a young teenager was Orphans of the Sky (the protagonist was called Hugh, by sheer coincidence) - I’ve read all his books, even his later, more self-indulgent ones - I don’t believe RAH was a fascist (I think he leaned anarcho-Libertarian-light, but believed in "society", albeit with rights earned, rather than bestowed).

My favourites are the Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Citizen of the Galaxy, Tunnel in the Sky, Podkayne of Mars, Friday, Glory Road, The Door into Summer, and the aforementioned Orphans of the Sky.
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2025, 15:10   #6
Anonymouse
RIP Tigger - 12 years?!
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bolton
Age: 59
Services: EE Superfast Broadband
Posts: 1,548
Anonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appeal
Anonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appealAnonymouse has a bronzed appeal
Angry Re: Starship Troopers reboot

Aaarrgghhh, the Guardian is at it again! How many more times: SERVING IN THE M.I. IS NOT MANDATORY TO ACQUIRING THE FRANCHISE! THOUGH AN EX-SOLDIER IS DEFINITELY A VETERAN, A VETERAN IS NOT NECESSARILY AN EX-SOLDIER! GET IT RIGHT, FOR CHURCHILL'S SAKE!!!

I mean, come on, guys, you're the Guardian, so I'd expect you to be able to read!
__________________
"People tend to confuse the words 'new' and 'improved'."
- Agent Phil Coulson, S.H.I.E.L.D.

WINDOWS 11, ANYONE?!
Anonymouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2025, 15:54   #7
Chris
Trollsplatter
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North of Watford
Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests
Posts: 38,028
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Re: Starship Troopers reboot

Not sure why you’d assume a Grauniad journalist can read? I’d go so far as to say their political/social agenda requires a degree of illiteracy.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2025, 17:42   #8
Paul
Dr Pepper Addict
Cable Forum Team
 
Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nottingham
Age: 62
Services: Aquiss FTTP (900M), Sky Q TV, Sky Mobile, Flextel SIP
Posts: 29,514
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Re: Starship Troopers reboot

Chill dude, its just a film (in fact, just a possible film atm).
__________________

Baby, I was born this way.
Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2025, 18:36   #9
Pierre
The Dark Satanic Mills
 
Pierre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: floating in the ether
Posts: 12,968
Pierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny stars
Pierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Starship Troopers reboot

Filed under, Not necessary.

But, could still be good.

Similar to RoboCop. The original was a perfect movie and did not need a sequel, let alone a remake/boot.

But I thought the reboot/make was a decent effort and entertaining and did enough differently with the story.
__________________
The wheel's still turning but the hamsters dead.
Pierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 22:24.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum