Online Safety Bill Etc

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Examples?

This entire thread.

And dozens more, going back years, usually related to some implied disability we’re supposed to dance around, that only seems to surface when you’re questioned or backed into a corner.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Russ

Without knowing what/who you’re talking about it’s hard to comment on whatever the hell you’re talking about but the only times the police have ever been in touch with us (and any groups we associate with) has been when comments have been posted that could either incite retaliation crimes or jeopardise the case.

Either way any decent hunter team ought to have an admin who monitors the chat in live stings etc and removes such posts asap.

Indeed yes, they should. I can't remember their name, but the group that I saw were also 'outing' what they refer to as 'Nonce protector' judges and police who had been found to have been charged with child abuse over the years in retaliation for one of their hunters receiving a police visit whilst he was out.

Their issue seems to be that one of their hunters gets a police visit for remarks made online, whilst judges hand out lenient sentences and some police have been found guilty of the crimes that they seek to prevent. I can't see what they hope to gain by rubbing the judiciary & local police force up the wrong way though.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

This entire thread.

And dozens more, going back years, usually related to some implied disability we’re supposed to dance around, that only seems to surface when you’re questioned or backed into a corner.

So many that you are unable to provide specific examples.

You appear to be questioning my disability itself and the effects thereof. Do you do the same to any other member of this site? If someone says that they are a cancer survivor, that they have been bereaved or have some form of mental or physical disability, do you seize upon this to make snide & discriminatory remarks to try and hurt or upset them? Do you get a kick out of this?

A withdrawal and apology for these gratuitous remarks would be greatly appreciated. My carer reports that I actually look physically shaken, not helped by various things keeping me awake for most of the night.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Indeed yes, they should. I can't remember their name, but the group that I saw were also 'outing' what they refer to as 'Nonce protector' judges and police who had been found to have been charged with child abuse over the years in retaliation for one of their hunters receiving a police visit whilst he was out.

Their issue seems to be that one of their hunters gets a police visit for remarks made online, whilst judges hand out lenient sentences and some police have been found guilty of the crimes that they seek to prevent. I can't see what they hope to gain by rubbing the judiciary & local police force up the wrong way though.

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So many that you are unable to provide specific examples.

You appear to be questioning my disability itself and the effects thereof. Do you do the same to any other member of this site? If someone says that they are a cancer survivor, that they have been bereaved or have some form of mental or physical disability, do you seize upon this to make snide & discriminatory remarks to try and hurt or upset them? Do you get a kick out of this?

A withdrawal and apology for these gratuitous remarks would be greatly appreciated. My carer reports that I actually look physically shaken, not helped by various things keeping me awake for most of the night.

do you feel as though you have been backed into a corner???

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Indeed yes, they should. I can't remember their name, but the group that I saw were also 'outing' what they refer to as 'Nonce protector' judges and police who had been found to have been charged with child abuse over the years in retaliation for one of their hunters receiving a police visit whilst he was out.

Their issue seems to be that one of their hunters gets a police visit for remarks made online, whilst judges hand out lenient sentences and some police have been found guilty of the crimes that they seek to prevent. I can't see what they hope to gain by rubbing the judiciary & local police force up the wrong way though.

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So many that you are unable to provide specific examples.

You appear to be questioning my disability itself and the effects thereof. Do you do the same to any other member of this site? If someone says that they are a cancer survivor, that they have been bereaved or have some form of mental or physical disability, do you seize upon this to make snide & discriminatory remarks to try and hurt or upset them? Do you get a kick out of this?

A withdrawal and apology for these gratuitous remarks would be greatly appreciated. My carer reports that I actually look physically shaken, not helped by various things keeping me awake for most of the night.

No one else goes on about their disabilities and/or illnesses and uses them to get off with getting berated for daft comments or posts. Claiming discrimination etc etc.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Stephen

No one else goes on about their disabilities and/or illnesses and uses them to get off with getting berated for daft comments or posts. Claiming discrimination etc etc.

And this is exactly why there’s more chance that I’d get an apology (not wanted, needed or appropriate) from Pierre than RC would.

If you (plural) have a disability, there’s no need to bring it up 8 out of 10 times when you (again, plural) perceive a personal attack.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

And this is exactly why there’s more chance that I’d get an apology (not wanted, needed or appropriate) from Pierre than RC would.

If you (plural) have a disability, there’s no need to bring it up 8 out of 10 times when you (again, plural) perceive a personal attack.

It does help though if you want to use it as a get out of jail free card for the things you've said or threats you've made. Personally I'd never bring a disability into a thread to excuse myself when I've got over excited but I easily could and you're one of the few people on here that even know what's wrong with me, the thing imo with disability or illness is if you let it define you, it will, my partner is an inspiration to me, she has form of blood cancer but never moans or complains about it and because of that it's always me that has to remind other members of the family that she even has it and she wouldn't have it any other way.

[Russ]

Oh absolutely, and I’m sorry to hear about your partner, I hope she kicks cancer’s arse.

A disability may explain certain behaviour, it should never be used as an excuse, or as you’ve said, a “get out of jail” card.

[RichardCoulter]

Hey I've advised Richard to get offline and to rest for the rest of today. Hopefully he ll be back tomorrow thanks you

Nicola facilitator

[Russ]

Well, that’s a new one.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Russ

Well, that’s a new one.

Sorry about that, I needed medical assistance, but i'm feeling a little better now thank goodness. Predator Awarenes is the name of the Facebook group that I mentioned earlier and, from what I can understand, one of them was arrested a few hours ago (not sure what for).

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Just getting round to watching Sundays political programmes and, when asked if she thought that free speech was under attack in the UK (because of the Online Safety Act), Kemi Badenoch said that she "thought it was", but that "overall it was ok" even if some areas had "gone too far". She ended by saying that it was "important to ensure that individuals are not allowed to harrass others in sensitive situations". This was on Sunday Morning with Trevor Phillips

It all seemed a bit muddled to me.

[thenry]

Social media influencers are fuelling a rise in misogyny and sexism in the UK's classrooms, according to teachers.

https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-ta...acher-13351203

I don't like the way he talks. It's from the side of his mouth. The tosh that comes out is beyond tolerable.

[Russ]

Tate is a king-sized bell end.

I won't ever claim to be dad of the year but I intend to do anything I can to teach my son to not pay any attention to whatever comes of of the Tate brothers' mouths.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Stephen

No one else goes on about their disabilities and/or illnesses and uses them to get off with getting berated for daft comments or posts. Claiming discrimination etc etc.

The overwhelming majority of my posts aren't related to my disability. It's only mentioned when necessary, just like you with your anxiety state. People need to be informed about any disabilities where it's relevant so that they can take it into account and avoid any discrimination.

There was once someone on here who kept getting berated for his spelling mistakes. He couldn't help it because he was dyslexic and had to keep on telling people this time and time again.

Would you say that he was using his condition to 'get off' with making spelling mistakes? Would you say that the repeated remarks about spelling mistakes, despite people being made aware of his dyslexia, was discrimination?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It does help though if you want to use it as a get out of jail free card for the things you've said or threats you've made. Personally I'd never bring a disability into a thread to excuse myself when I've got over excited but I easily could and you're one of the few people on here that even know what's wrong with me, the thing imo with disability or illness is if you let it define you, it will, my partner is an inspiration to me, she has form of blood cancer but never moans or complains about it and because of that it's always me that has to remind other members of the family that she even has it and she wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm sorry to hear about your partner, i imagine that this form of cancer is particularly awful. I've mentioned her in my prayers.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The overwhelming majority of my posts aren't related to my disability. It's only mentioned when necessary, just like you with your anxiety state. People need to be informed about any disabilities where it's relevant so that they can take it into account and avoid any discrimination.

There was once someone on here who kept getting berated for his spelling mistakes. He couldn't help it because he was dyslexic and had to keep on telling people this time and time again.

Would you say that he was using his condition to 'get off' with making spelling mistakes? Would you say that the repeated remarks about spelling mistakes, despite people being made aware of his dyslexia, was discrimination?

I think what Stephen is trying to say is there are some Really Challenging members on here who make ignorant or egregious comments but when they get pulled up for what they said, they claim it's all part of some apparent 'disability' and to take action against would therefore be 'discrimination'.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The overwhelming majority of my posts aren't related to my disability. It's only mentioned when necessary, just like you with your anxiety state. People need to be informed about any disabilities where it's relevant so that they can take it into account and avoid any discrimination.

There was once someone on here who kept getting berated for his spelling mistakes. He couldn't help it because he was dyslexic and had to keep on telling people this time and time again.

Would you say that he was using his condition to 'get off' with making spelling mistakes? Would you say that the repeated remarks about spelling mistakes, despite people being made aware of his dyslexia, was discrimination?

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I'm sorry to hear about your partner, i imagine that this form of cancer is particularly awful. I've mentioned her in my prayers.

I often make a lot of spelling errors due to my sight impairment. Yet I never mention it if someone pulls me up on it. It's none of their business and its just rude to spell check someone. So I just let them get on with it.

As for my anxiety, its been under control for many years now and again I don't really bring it up or get stressed out. There are more important things in life than some anonymous person on the Internet.