28-03-2025, 18:45
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Why is Trump considered the problem when there's movement in notions spoken of by Trump?
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28-03-2025, 19:32
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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We and the EU might need to put our militaries there to show that we are 'securing' the area. Obviously, that's not what it's actually about, nor would our troops deter the Americans from invasion,n but it would remove their pretext for taking it over.
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They want the country itself because it seems Trump is obsessed with his legacy, being that he secured more land for America.
I originally thought their obsession with Greenland was just him talking nonsense as he does, but
they're continuing with it and making moves to justify it. They're sending the VP out there.
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Same here.
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28-03-2025, 19:32
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by thenry
Why is Trump considered the problem when there's movement in notions spoken of by Trump?
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Such as?
Canada and Greenland seem pretty unequivocal about not wishing to be subsumed by the US of A…
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28-03-2025, 20:00
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Such as?
Canada and Greenland seem pretty unequivocal about not wishing to be subsumed by the US of A…
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Israel conflict. All hell will break loose.
Movement in the Ukraine. Gambling with WW3.
These coward leaders of ours happily toe the line adding destruction to this world then jump on the Trump movement.
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28-03-2025, 20:39
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by ianch99
What would Denmark, and therefore the EU, do when they take over?
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They’re not going to take over.
If they attempt that then they are no better than Putin.
And although I do enjoy taking the contrary position on here in regards to Trump, if they did attempt such a thing, I’d jump into bed with Hugh in a heart beat. Figuratively speaking.
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28-03-2025, 20:53
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Pierre
They’re not going to take over.
If they attempt that then they are no better than Putin.
And although I do enjoy taking the contrary position on here in regards to Trump, if they did attempt such a thing, I’d jump into bed with Hugh in a heart beat. Figuratively speaking.
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The thing is, what are they up to otherwise?
This isn't Trump just talking nonsense. They're starting to build a pretext. They're talking about it being a danger to US and world security, that Russia and China are showing interest, and they would secure it. They're framing it as a national security issue to build support domestically.
I don't understand why they would bother with these arguments and going to visit Greenland if they weren't building to something.
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28-03-2025, 20:55
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Pierre
They’re not going to take over.
If they attempt that then they are no better than Putin.
And although I do enjoy taking the contrary position on here in regards to Trump, if they did attempt such a thing, I’d jump into bed with Hugh in a heart beat. Figuratively speaking.
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28-03-2025, 21:08
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Seems that Vlad has done a deal with the Orange One:
Putin threatens Arctic WAR ahead of US Vice President Vance's visit to Greenland and claims NATO is using region as 'springboard for conflicts'
JD Vance Warns There's 'Very Strong Evidence' China, Russia Want Greenland
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Originally Posted by Damien
This isn't Trump just talking nonsense. They're starting to build a pretext. They're talking about it being a danger to US and world security, that Russia and China are showing interest, and they would secure it. They're framing it as a national security issue to build support domestically.
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This ...
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Originally Posted by Paul
Probably nothing, but I suppose it depends on what "take over" means.
It doesnt really seem like they want to rule it, more just use it as a big US base.
Since they already have a base on the island, its hard to see what more they think they need.
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Trump wants the minerals ....
Factbox: Greenland’s rich but largely untapped mineral resources
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A 2023 survey showed that 25 of 34 minerals deemed “critical raw materials” by the European Commission were found in Greenland.
The extraction of oil and natural gas is banned in Greenland for environmental reasons, and development of its mining sector has been snarled in red tape and opposition from indigenous people.
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Never thought I would quote from mining.com 
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29-03-2025, 10:03
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Invoking the Russian bogeyman to induce consent for a policy that ordinarily wouldn’t be popular. A tried and tested strategy.
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30-03-2025, 21:05
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
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“I didn’t think the face-eating leopard would eat my face” says man who spent years sucking up to face-eating leopard
Etc etc etc
Or, what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? In this case, Trump’s ego on one side, and Putin’s glorious purpose (to restore the glory of the Rus) on the other.
Trump seems to have thought he was Putin’s equal, and his New York tough guy dealmaker schtick would earn him Putn’s respect and co-operation. Putin, on the other hand, saw Trump for what he is: a midwit bully whose influence derives from inherited wealth rather than any personal wit or skill. Putin, I am certain, despises Trump and will not give him what he wants. He will string him along for as long as he can and get whatever he can out of it, then carry on with his plan to rebuild the Russian empire. That is his life’s mission, and anyone who thinks he’s going to give that up for any reason is fooling themselves.
Trump is never going to get a genuine peaceful resolution out of this. The only question is at what point he properly understands it. Because that’s the point at which he will suffer narcissistic injury, and when Trump feels personally wounded by people not caving in to his demands, he is petulant and unpredictable.
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30-03-2025, 21:28
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Let's hope this doesn't happen!
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Trump says ‘there are methods’ for seeking third term in White House
In interview Trump said he wasn’t joking when he alluded to a purported loophole for a third term as president
Donald Trump has said there are “methods” – if not “plans” – to circumvent the constitutional limit preventing US presidents from serving three terms.
In an interview aired Sunday on NBC, Trump was asked about his trying to stay in office beyond his second presidency, a specter he has repeatedly raised while sometimes claiming he is just joking.
Trump told host Kristen Welker “there are methods which you could do it” – and this time made it a point to say he was not joking.
“Well, there are plans,” Trump said to Welker. “There are – not plans. There are methods – there are methods which you could do it, as you know.”
Welker alluded to a purported loophole some Trump supporters have fantasized about finding in which he could be the running mate to his vice-president, JD Vance, or someone else in the 2028 election. The person to whom Trump would be the running mate in that scenario could then immediately resign after winning and being sworn in as president, letting Trump take over by succession.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...term-president
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30-03-2025, 21:42
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Re: President Trump 2.0
If you were JD Vance, or anyone else credible enough to actually win a general election, you would have to be clinically insane to be elected president and then, having actually been sworn in, to willingly resign in favour of an 82 year old barely continent Donald Trump. What could possibly induce you to do such a thing?
Besides, while there is just enough ambiguity in the 22nd amendment (it says ‘elected’ to the office, not subbed in), it would end up with the Supreme Court and an Oval Office without authority for at least as long as it took the case to be decided. You have to wonder whether even the modern husk of the GOP would be so self-destructive, or act in ways so obviously against the national interest.
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30-03-2025, 22:10
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Don't worry there's probably more than one bullet with trumps name on it, and at the rate he's making enemies it won't be long before the vice retard takes over.
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30-03-2025, 22:21
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Chris
If you were JD Vance, or anyone else credible enough to actually win a general election, you would have to be clinically insane to be elected president and then, having actually been sworn in, to willingly resign in favour of an 82 year old barely continent Donald Trump. What could possibly induce you to do such a thing?
Besides, while there is just enough ambiguity in the 22nd amendment (it says ‘elected’ to the office, not subbed in), it would end up with the Supreme Court and an Oval Office without authority for at least as long as it took the case to be decided. You have to wonder whether even the modern husk of the GOP would be so self-destructive, or act in ways so obviously against the national interest.
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A few hints from the GRU of what will happen if he doesn’t toe the line should suffice.
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