Starmer’s chronicles - Page 53

papa smurf · 04-02-2025, 20:49

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Starmer lives in north London and the article says his lessons were at the Party's HQ in London. That's not 50 miles! If you're selling bridges, buyer beware!

24 December though sounds either dedicated or suspicious.

He's either Santa clause or full of shyte my monies on the latter

nomadking · 04-02-2025, 21:02

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Starmer lives in north London and the article says his lessons were at the Party's HQ in London. That's not 50 miles! If you're selling bridges, buyer beware!

24 December though sounds either dedicated or suspicious.

She travelled 50 miles from Brighton.

papa smurf · 04-02-2025, 21:14

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Originally Posted by nomadking

She travelled 50 miles from Brighton.

From a tier 3 lockdown area to a tier 4 lockdown area

nomadking · 04-02-2025, 21:25

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

From a tier 3 lockdown area to a tier 4 lockdown area

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Tier four rules at the time stated: “Residents in Tiers 1 to 3 should not enter Tier 4 areas.”

**Hugh** · 04-02-2025, 21:46

Perhaps she was going for an eye test?

**Damien** · 04-02-2025, 21:57

I don't think the police will get involved. Even if they would bother investigating that far back - and I doubt they want to go back 5 years - the rules were you could travel for work if unable to work from home.

People will debate if a speech coach can't work from home but I doubt that's a decision the the police will want to wade into. It would then open up all the other advisors that would have been hanging around Starmer and other senior politicians at the time to possible retrospective action.

1andrew1 · 04-02-2025, 22:09

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Originally Posted by nomadking

She travelled 50 miles from Brighton.

I was responding to what Chris's post said, namely "...what he was doing, 50 miles from home..."
But that makes sense as to where the 50 miles came from.

nomadking · 04-02-2025, 22:17

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I was responding to what Chris's post said, namely "...what he was doing, 50 miles from home..."
But that makes sense as to where the 50 miles came from.

He was still her "employer", so had responsibility for her making the journey.

**Damien** · 04-02-2025, 22:21

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Starmer lives in north London and the article says his lessons were at the Party's HQ in London. That's not 50 miles! If you're selling bridges, buyer beware!

24 December though sounds either dedicated or suspicious.

The 24th is because that's when Starmer was giving his speech about Brexit. It was filmed at Labour HQ and she was in attendance.

**Chris** · 04-02-2025, 22:23

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I was responding to what Chris's post said, namely "...what he was doing, 50 miles from home..."
But that makes sense as to where the 50 miles came from.

Yeah, I misread some details about it earlier.

The point is, a 50-mile journey was made. That is not trivial, especially not on Christmas Eve, particularly not during a pandemic when there are legal restrictions on movement.

Starmer caused that journey to be made, apparently just so she could give him a hand.

1andrew1 · 04-02-2025, 23:07

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Originally Posted by Damien

The 24th is because that's when Starmer was giving his speech about Brexit. It was filmed at Labour HQ and she was in attendance.

Ah, that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Yeah, I misread some details about it earlier.

The point is, a 50-mile journey was made. That is not trivial, especially not on Christmas Eve, particularly not during a pandemic when there are legal restrictions on movement.

Starmer caused that journey to be made, apparently just so she could give him a hand.

I'm not condoning the 50 miles, just knew that figure made no sense as Starmer lives in London.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

He was still her "employer", so had responsibility for her making the journey.

He wouldn't employ her, just contract her services. She's doubtless got her own company and it would be her responsibility to adhere to the laws of the land. But those who contracted her services must have considered the implications of employing someone based outside London.

**Damien** · 05-02-2025, 08:10

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

He wouldn't employ her, just contract her services. She's doubtless got her own company and it would be her responsibility to adhere to the laws of the land. But those who contracted her services must have considered the implications of employing someone based outside London.

I don't there are legal issues here. As I mentioned previously I think a speech coach to the Leader of the Opposition being there on the day of a speech will qualify as work. She could have done it via conference call, as it appeared she had done previously with him, but I would be surprised if the police would bother trying to decide that.

It's a political issue for him. He is morally responsible because nobody cares what a speech coach does otherwise. She is also unlikely to have been to only person in Labour HQ helping him with that speech as well so I suspect the media have more names to drop.

papa smurf · 05-02-2025, 08:24

People couldn't attend funerals, see their loved ones in care homes, with many other harsh restrictions due to the pandemic, but bullshiting Starmer does what ever he pleases after calling for tighter restrictions and longer lockdowns.

**Damien** · 05-02-2025, 08:31

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

People couldn't attend funerals, see their loved ones in care homes, with many other harsh restrictions due to the pandemic, but bullshiting Starmer does what ever he pleases after calling for tighter restrictions and longer lockdowns.

Up to 30 people could attend funerals at this point in the lockdown. You could also visit relatives in care homes as long as there were COVID measures in place.

nomadking · 05-02-2025, 08:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Ah, that makes sense.

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I'm not condoning the 50 miles, just knew that figure made no sense as Starmer lives in London.

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He wouldn't employ her, just contract her services. She's doubtless got her own company and it would be her responsibility to adhere to the laws of the land. But those who contracted her services must have considered the implications of employing someone based outside London.

The use of scare quotes in my use of "employer", means not to be taken literally. He still employed her services. She was there at his request. She didn't turn up unexpectedly.