27-01-2025, 11:16
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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I acknowledge the two additional satellites and Sky’s contract with SES. By the way, I also accept that the 2029 date was extendable, but the article makes clear that this will be only a time limited extension that is unlikely to be extended further.
The article I attached also explains that Sky will not want to be continuing to pay for expensive transponder space when they have Sky Stream available. Sky has stopped promoting Sky Q already, concentrating on their Stream and Glass alternatives.
If you want to fantasise that nothing will change, that’s fine, Hugh. I’ll leave you to comfort yourself with that thought.
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And that's the difference between you and I on this subject - I point out factual fallacies, you resort to ad-hominem attacks. Please be reassured that any fantasies I may indulge in feature neither satellite DTH or you...
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27-01-2025, 12:49
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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I know that, Legendkiller. How does that conflict with what I have said?
Your second point about the hybrid box is beside the point, and such an announcement has not been made by Sky. As far as I know, Sky Q viewers will be moved over to Sky Stream.
It is highly unlikely that Sky would want to pay for costly transponder space when the alternative of streaming is available.
It’ll all come out in the wash.
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The contract with SES will have expired by 2030. While I accept that there might be one more extension after that, Sky will no longer be using satellites for their broadcasting by 2035.
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...ntil-2029.html[EXTRACT]
Global satellite provider SES, which operates a network of nearly 70 satellites that can deliver video and data services to 99% of the world’s population, has today announced an extension of their existing partnership with Sky that will see them continuing to provide capacity to support the Sky Q TV service in the UK and Ireland until the end of 2029.
Sky UK has spent the past couple of years putting a lot more effort into pushing their new internet-based streaming platforms, Sky Glass (Sky integrated streaming TV set) and Sky Stream (streaming set-top-box), which are standalone products that use your home broadband ISP and WiFi connection to stream Sky’s on-demand video content and live TV channels – without the need for a satellite dish.
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OB i literally used to work in the industry and have contacts, SKY are already working on their next box and guess what it's satellite based.
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27-01-2025, 13:24
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k
OB i literally used to work in the industry and have contacts, SKY are already working on their next box and guess what it's satellite based.
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I find that both surprising and encouraging as I prefer satellite to internet distribution. I wonder if it will be a hybrid box capable of both?
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27-01-2025, 18:44
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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I find that both surprising and encouraging as I prefer satellite to internet distribution. I wonder if it will be a hybrid box capable of both?
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I'm suprised to hear it, simply because Sky Q boxes can already do both.
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27-01-2025, 19:16
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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I'm suprised to hear it, simply because Sky Q boxes can already do both.
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So when Sky stop using satellites, could they simply switch Q customers over to Sky Stream?
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27-01-2025, 20:09
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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I find that both surprising and encouraging as I prefer satellite to internet distribution. I wonder if it will be a hybrid box capable of both?
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Working on and wether it'll actually release is to be seen, working could just mean plans.
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28-01-2025, 12:27
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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OB i literally used to work in the industry and have contacts, SKY are already working on their next box and guess what it's satellite based.
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Very strange if true. I’ve certainly not heard of it and this runs contrary to everything I’ve read about what is going on.
Of course, given that you only have the word of your contacts for that, we can’t verify the story. I guess this comes under the ‘you heard it here first’ category.
I remain skeptical.
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28-01-2025, 14:48
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Re: Virgin TV Service
In a month it will be the end of an era as the Eurosport channels are to close:
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...201168.article
AIUI Eurosport content will go on the current TNT channels, and the Eurosport channels will cease broadcasting, meaning that those in the current basic channel packages will lose access, unless they begin to take TNT Sports.
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04-02-2025, 13:20
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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AIUI Eurosport content will go on the current TNT channels, and the Eurosport channels will cease broadcasting, meaning that those in the current basic channel packages will lose access, unless they begin to take TNT Sports.
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Seems that some base-tier customers with heavy use of Eurosport but no TNT subscription, are being offered discounted TNT for the remaining duration of their minimum term.
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04-02-2025, 15:35
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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Seems that some base-tier customers with heavy use of Eurosport but no TNT subscription, are being offered discounted TNT for the remaining duration of their minimum term.
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A ploy we will probably see again. Carrot this contract, stick the next.
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So when Sky stop using satellites, could they simply switch Q customers over to Sky Stream?
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V360 boxes could certainty go IP only in a transition phase, so there is no reason SkyQ could not do likewise. As far as satellite distribution goes, it's not just the kit up in space that is expiring, the number of broadcasters prepared to pay for linear distribution is also falling.
It looks as if 2030 is also the "drop dead" date for Sky News in it's present form, as Comcast wants to go down the road of a "Premium digital service" going forward.
https://pressgazette.co.uk/publisher...m-2030-vision/
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04-02-2025, 17:37
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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A ploy we will probably see again. Carrot this contract, stick the next.
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Will get for "free" until contract ends then have to pay if still wanted.
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05-02-2025, 08:40
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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Seems that some base-tier customers with heavy use of Eurosport but no TNT subscription, are being offered discounted TNT for the remaining duration of their minimum term.
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And even offering it to those out of their contract period for the remainder of their contract period. Quite some logic by VM there.
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05-02-2025, 11:25
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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OB i literally used to work in the industry and have contacts, SKY are already working on their next box and guess what it's satellite based.
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I did hear about that box from my sources late last year.
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05-02-2025, 14:34
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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OB i literally used to work in the industry and have contacts, SKY are already working on their next box and guess what it's satellite based.
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Just cause a row  I know of a company that is working on a flying car , have been messing about for years doesn't mean it will happen
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05-02-2025, 14:50
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Re: Virgin TV Service
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Just cause a row  I know of a company that is working on a flying car , have been messing about for years doesn't mean it will happen 
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Stand up isn't your strongest point is it buddy lol.
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