Online Safety Bill Etc

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Itshim

I am sure children in the past managed to get over it.l now I did.and that was face to face, if you count heads in the jon perhaps the answer is keep them away from smart tec.

In the past, children who were being bullied at least got respite in the evening and at weekends, but now it's possible they can be got at 24/7.

Keeping kids away from tech would solve a lot of problems, but is nigh on impossible these days. Things are very different to when we were young & at school.

There have been a couple of experiments where schoolchildren have gone 'phone free' for a time and the results were encouraging.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

In the past, children who were being bullied at least got respite in the evening and at weekends, but now it's possible they can be got at 24/7.

Keeping kids away from tech would solve a lot of problems, but is nigh on impossible these days. Things are very different to when we were young & at school.

There have been a couple of experiments where schoolchildren have gone 'phone free' for a time and the results were encouraging.

You can easily block people or unsubscribe from groups etc. No one forces anyone to view or be a part of social media. Where does the responsibility lie?

As for the experiment, out of a class room 1 or 2 coped well without their phones but the majority couldn’t wait to get their phones back. Whether we like it or not they are now part of modern life. We have to take responsibility for ourselves and not shift the blame.

You can’t always blame social media or the internet for those that can’t handle life. There’s always going to be other root causes but you never hear those reasons. But instead it just seems easier to point the blame elsewhere or use it as an excuse for not taking responsibility for ourselves or for your own children.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by peanut

You can easily block people or unsubscribe from groups etc. No one forces anyone to view or be a part of social media. Where does the responsibility lie?

As for the experiment, out of a class room 1 or 2 coped well without their phones but the majority couldn’t wait to get their phones back. Whether we like it or not they are now part of modern life. We have to take responsibility for ourselves and not shift the blame.

You can’t always blame social media or the internet for those that can’t handle life. There’s always going to be other root causes but you never hear those reasons. But instead it just seems easier to point the blame elsewhere or use it as an excuse for not taking responsibility for ourselves or for your own children.

So true it seems today , *.* want to blame anyone but their self's. It's time people looked after their own welfare and stop relying on other people.

[RichardCoulter]

This is children and vulnerable people that we are talking about that need to be protected from bullies, scammers, paedophiles etc.

Of course, in an ideal world, every parent would try and do the right thing where children are concerned, but may ultimately fail. Some won't even try at all either due to inertia or because they are vulnerable themselves. These people need to be protected too.

Those who use/allow use of the internet in a decent and proper manner, with no malice, have nothing to fear from this legislation whatsoever.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This is children and vulnerable people that we are talking about that need to be protected from bullies, scammers, paedophiles etc.

Of course, in an ideal world, every parent would try and do the right thing where children are concerned, but may ultimately fail. Some won't even try at all either due to inertia or because they are vulnerable themselves. These people need to be protected too.

Those who use/allow use of the internet in a decent and proper manner, with no malice, have nothing to fear from this legislation whatsoever.

You're on cloud cuckoo land. And in denial.

You've not acknowledged any of my post. Nor will you accept anything other than a total ban on anything and everything just to protect a tiny minority that can't handle nor accept anything they see, hear, or whatever. Just push the blame on the internet and that's it.

It's a sledgehammer to a nut approach. Penalising everyone because others choose to blame something else other than themselves.

If parents wrap their kids in cottonwool, do everything for them, shield them from the real world etc, what do you think will happen to the child when they get to find out for themselves?

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by peanut

You're on cloud cuckoo land. And in denial.

You've not acknowledged any of my post. Nor will you accept anything other than a total ban on anything and everything just to protect a tiny minority that can't handle nor accept anything they see, hear, or whatever. Just push the blame on the internet and that's it.

It's a sledgehammer to a nut approach. Penalising everyone because others choose to blame something else other than themselves.

If parents wrap their kids in cottonwool, do everything for them, shield them from the real world etc, what do you think will happen to the child when they get to find out for themselves?

I think we all know the answer to that.

[RichardCoulter]

These points & questions have previously been raised & answered and can be viewed in the site archives.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

These points & questions have previously been raised & answered and can be viewed in the site archives.

Says the person who just repeats everything over and over again.... You post, we reply. Then you just ignore the replies and state the above.....

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by peanut

Says the person who just repeats everything over and over again.... You post, we reply. Then you just ignore the replies and state the above.....

I post new developments as they arise. Whilst people are entitled to express their opinions on these, there is no benefit to me answering duplicate questions that have previously received a response.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I post new developments as they arise. Whilst people are entitled to express their opinions on these, there is no benefit to me answering duplicate questions that have previously received a response.

Maybe you just don't have the answers.....

Basically there's no point in replying to you when you just ignore anything raised.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by peanut

Maybe you just don't have the answers.....

Basically there's no point in replying to you when you just ignore anything raised.

As previously explained, answers have already been provided. This concludes our discussion on this as it is not productive.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

As previously explained, answers have already been provided. This concludes our discussion on this as it is not productive.

Do not moderate other users. They may continue to discuss topics within the forum rules. You may simply ignore them if you wish.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

As previously explained, answers have already been provided. This concludes our discussion on this as it is not productive.

Well then if this concludes the discussion on this subject then maybe the Mods will close the discussion thread and archive it.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Chris

They may continue to discuss topics within the forum rules. You may simply ignore them if you wish.

Of course.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Well then if this concludes the discussion on this subject then maybe the Mods will close the discussion thread and archive it.

I was referring to duplicate questions being asked of me, but i'm sure that you already knew that.

I don't know why you are so keen to try to get any particular thread closed just because subject matter doesn't interest you. Most people simply ignore threads they feel this about.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

As previously explained, answers have already been provided. This concludes our discussion on this as it is not productive.

It concludes nothing, unless you wish to be removed from the topic ?