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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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2008 is after much of it had gone on. Not sure the circular is that relevant, as it seems to revolve around parental care, which is not where the problems were.
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The term "informed choice" is used in the Sexual Offences (Northern Ireland) 2008 Act. It is used in connection with whether somebody has a mental disorder and cannot make an "informed choice". Is that where the confusion comes from?
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Find it difficult to believe that dozens of police officers would've lied about it.
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But that is the Circular that you insist is the basis for all the points you are making, as that is the Circular Nazir Azfal was allegedly referring to (even though he stated he hadn't actually seen it), and you keep referring to him as the source of your "evidence".
You can't have it both ways...
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I've been having trouble sleeping, but slept like a log last night, your talent is such that it could put a glass eye to sleep, remember facts are our friends 
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Excellent news - glad to have been of service...
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04-01-2025, 15:35
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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But that is the Circular that you insist is the basis for all the points you are making, as that is the Circular Nazir Azfal was allegedly referring to (even though he stated he hadn't actually seen it), and you keep referring to him as the source of your "evidence".
You can't have it both ways...
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Excellent news - glad to have been of service...
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I'd be really grateful if you could deliver more drivel about 9 o clock, keep up the good work mate
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04-01-2025, 16:53
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Far too many awkward questions to be answered with an inquiry.
Eg Why are they referred as "Asian gangs", when the common factor is Islam(eg groups of Somalis, especially in the Netherlands). How did the gangs form so easily with friends, neighbours, workmates. How did they easily find others wanting to abuse in other town and cities that the girls were trafficked to. IMO they aren't paedophiles as such, it's just girls that happened to be young and could be controlled easily.
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I agree, I also don’t like the term “grooming” gangs.
They should be called exactly what they are:
“Islamic child rape gangs”
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2008 is after much of it had gone on. Not sure the circular is that relevant, as it seems to revolve around parental care, which is not where the problems were
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I wouldn’t be using the past tense with this issue, I fully expect that it is still going on, somewhere.
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04-01-2025, 16:58
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I agree, I also don’t like the term “grooming” gangs.
They should be called exactly what they are:
“Islamic child rape gangs”
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I wouldn’t be using the past tense with this issue, I fully expect that it is still going on, somewhere.
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My feeling it with last as long as another story doesn't break, as with nearly all news storys
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05-01-2025, 09:00
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I'd be really grateful if you could deliver more drivel about 9 o clock, keep up the good work mate 
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05-01-2025, 11:42
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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One can only hope, but unfortunately labour doesn't like changes leaders while they are PM
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05-01-2025, 11:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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One can only hope, but unfortunately labour doesn't like changes leaders while they are PM
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I think they did with Blair and Brown as the latter was called "the unelected PM" by his critics.
I can't see Starmer resigning either any time soon. I suspect he'll outlast Badenoch as a Party leader and if he learns from his mistakes, he'll have a second term.
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05-01-2025, 12:01
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I think they did with Blair and Brown as the latter was called "the unelected PM" by his critics.
I can't see Starmer resigning either any time soon. I suspect he'll outlast Badenoch as a Party leader and if he learns from his mistakes, he'll have a second term.
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That will be first.....learning from mistakes
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05-01-2025, 13:55
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Labour and any other party will stab their leader in the back just as fast as they stab the electorate in the back.
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05-01-2025, 14:32
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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05-01-2025, 15:08
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Elon likes Tommy Robinson so watch that space 
and with enough of musk's money behind him who knows
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05-01-2025, 15:25
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Elon likes Tommy Robinson so watch that space 
and with enough of musk's money behind him who knows
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Do you not have a problem with foreign oligarchs interfering with British affairs? I mean sovereignty, nationalism and all that? Swap out Musk with Soros and the right-wing would be frothing at the mouth.
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05-01-2025, 15:43
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
This guy just has it in the UK, that's all it is. He wants chaos.
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05-01-2025, 15:46
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Do you not have a problem with foreign oligarchs interfering with British affairs? I mean sovereignty, nationalism and all that? Swap out Musk with Soros and and the right-wing would be frothing at the mouth.
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If the labour party can send it's minions to campaign for Biden who am i to complain when the favour is returned.
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This guy just has it in the UK, that's all it is. He wants chaos.
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i think he's a bit nuts but that's just my opinion
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05-01-2025, 16:12
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
British politicians need to unite to tell Musk to mind his own business and leave us alone. Who is he to dictate that the King should collapse the government or who the leader of Reform should be?
It's a shame Farage has more backbone than Badenoch really.
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