Starmer’s chronicles

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Russ

Back in 1991 my first proper job after Uni was as a police civilian clerk, in short on shift with one of the policing teams. I was barely out of my teens and we also had some uniformed officers not much older than myself.

One of those went on to make it to Chief Inspector and took retirement on a full pension at 50 (as many cops do) but applied to do a civvy job in the police at supervisory level, the salary would have been around £32k.

So on top of that monthly wage, he also has his police pension (which I would never criticise him for as he was a damn good cop).

I don't know exactly what he's on (it's none of my business), but I'd consider him a well-off, if not 'rich', pensioner.

And as much as I liked the guy if I heard him complain about the fuel allowance removal I'd call him a knobhead to his face,

The problem is pensioners like my Father in Law who are just above the limit set by the government are the ones to struggle. As it stands if he needs help we as a family will ensure he is safe. Come the next election we as a family will not forget this.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sirius

The problem is pensioners like my Father in Law who are just above the limit set by the government are the ones to struggle. As it stands if he needs help we as a family will ensure he is safe. Come the next election we as a family will not forget this.

So you voted Labour this time then?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by ianch99

So you voted Labour this time then?

I will bite as it's the season of good will, i have never voted for labour and will never vote for Labour. People call the conservatives the nasty party but as a veteran who served in NI i find Labours stance in the past and in the present towards veterans who served in NI distasteful at the least and down right treacherous in reality. It sickens me to see Starmer spout how highly he regards the military when he is one of the instigators of the investigations into the military and don't forget it was Labour who issued the letters of comfort to the terrorists which means they can no longer be brought to justice for what they did unlike the veterans who are now going to be investigated.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-prosecution/

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1527975571467487

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I will bite as it's the season of good will, i have never voted for labour and will never vote for Labour. People call the conservatives the nasty party but as a veteran who served in NI i find Labours stance in the past and in the present towards veterans who served in NI distasteful at the least and down right treacherous in reality. It sickens me to see Starmer spout how highly he regards the military when he is one of the instigators of the investigations into the military and don't forget it was Labour who issued the letters of comfort to the terrorists which means they can no longer be brought to justice for what they did unlike the veterans who are now going to be investigated.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-prosecution/

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1527975571467487

No need to bite. You said come the next election you will not forget this but you would never vote Labour anyway so why the colourful statement?

I was in NI in the 80ś working for the M.O.D. I remember talking to the soldiers in Crossmaglen and I have a different perspective to you. Do you have the same opinion of the Tory Party when David Cameron apologised for killings by British paras on Bloody Sunday?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by ianch99

No need to bite. You said come the next election you will not forget this but you would never vote Labour anyway so why the colourful statement?

I was in NI in the 80ś working for the M.O.D. I remember talking to the soldiers in Crossmaglen and I have a different perspective to you. Do you have the same opinion of the Tory Party when David Cameron apologised for killings by British paras on Bloody Sunday?

I was not happy when he did that and he needed a kick in the butt of it. When you look at some of the stuff that Labour has done when it comes to our service personnel its shocking. Do you remember Corbin speaking to the crowd in LondonDerry along side Adam's and McGuinness where he said the IRA were freedom fighters. By the way i was part of the security cordon that day so heard it all. This was just after the Loughgall attack by the IRA.

I did 3 tours in NI so have a bitter memory of what went on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loughgall_ambush

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I was not happy when he did that and he needed a kick in the butt of it. When you look at some of the stuff that Labour has done when it comes to our service personnel its shocking. Do you remember Corbin speaking to the crowd in LondonDerry along side Adam's and McGuinness where he said the IRA were freedom fighters. By the way i was part of the security cordon that day so heard it all. This was just after the Loughgall attack by the IRA.

I did 3 tours in NI so have a bitter memory of what went on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loughgall_ambush

I don´t regard Corbyn as representative of the broader Labour party in the same way some of the recent Tory leaders & ministers are not representative of the broader Tory party. Corbyn was an aberration in the same way Johnson was and both are well rid of. It is sad that the Labour Party has regained its senses but the Tory party has not.

[Pierre]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-wo...gests-13281099


He’ll be gone by March, with Reeves close behind.

Prime Minister Streeting will see you now.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...rship-contests

When can a Labour leadership election take place in government?

When in government, an election can only take place if a majority of the party conference request it through a card vote (also known as a block vote). This gives 50% of the voting power to affiliated organisations and 50% to constituency Labour parties.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Prime Minister Streeting will see you now.

This one ?

Wes Streeting, the health secretary, would lose Ilford North to an independent, the analysis suggests.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I don´t regard Corbyn as representative of the broader Labour party in the same way some of the recent Tory leaders & ministers are not representative of the broader Tory party. Corbyn was an aberration in the same way Johnson was and both are well rid of. It is sad that the Labour Party has regained its senses but the Tory party has not.

It's not as if the "broader Labour party" voted him in as leader, is it? He's still an MP because of Labour voters.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Pierre

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-wo...gests-13281099


He’ll be gone by March, with Reeves close behind.

Prime Minister Streeting will see you now.

If only we could.

[1andrew1]

I think he's getting the bad news out of the way as early as possible. Obviously, he hopes opinions of him will improve in the next few years.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I don´t regard Corbyn as representative of the broader Labour party in the same way some of the recent Tory leaders & ministers are not representative of the broader Tory party. Corbyn was an aberration in the same way Johnson was and both are well rid of. It is sad that the Labour Party has regained its senses but the Tory party has not.

If this is what ‘regaining its senses’ looks like, heaven help us! We have another four and a half years of this.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think he's getting the bad news out of the way as early as possible. Obviously, he hopes opinions of him will improve in the next few years.

The bad news will be replaced by worse news. Wait and see.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...rship-contests

Irrelevant…..but thanks anyway.


Talking about a change in leadership not government

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Originally Posted by Paul

This one ?

Yes….got four years before that might happen.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Irrelevant…..but thanks anyway.


Talking about a change in leadership not government

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Yes….got four years before that might happen.

Apologies…….jus read the link ……..but still not sure of its relevance.

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