President Trump 2.0

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Amend the constitution to allow a third term

Ban elections? Hopefully the checks and balances will prevent this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-fox-interview

Originally Posted by Itshim

Amend the constitution to allow a third term

Easier said than done…

As you know, a proposed amendment must be passed by two-thirds of both houses of Congress, then ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states - can’t see 290 Reps, 67 Senators, and 38 States getting behind that notion…

More likely to just not hold the next Election - El Presidente for life!

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Easier said than done…

As you know, a proposed amendment must be passed by two-thirds of both houses of Congress, then ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states - can’t see 290 Reps, 67 Senators, and 38 States getting behind that notion…

More likely to just not hold the next Election - El Presidente for life!

Hate to say it but I'm not so sure PS it was posted a sort of a joke . Now starting to doubt myself

[Pierre]

ABC pay Trump $15M defamation for presenter claiming he was "liable for rape"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrw57q4y9do

Originally Posted by Pierre

ABC pay Trump $15M defamation for presenter claiming he was "liable for rape"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrw57q4y9do

The judge in the case did say that Trump’s conduct would meet the dictionary definition of rape and would have been found liable for rape in multiple jurisdictions, noting that it was the very narrow and specific wording of NY state law that led to the liability being “sexual assault” in this case.

Still, repeatedly claiming “rape” without such qualifying remarks was unwise.

[ianch99]

Commands from the next "Vice" President:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1869461048828522999

No bills should be passed Congress until Jan 20, when @realDonaldTrump takes office.

None.

Zero.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Commands from the next "Vice" President:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1869461048828522999

I agree, it’s a very strange system in the US, to have a “president elect” wait over 2 months before they assume power……

Leaving the incumbent free to wreak havoc should they desire.

If they need time to “transition” fine, but there should be limitations on the legislation or executive orders they can produce during that time.

Whatever that link is just sends my browser into a loop.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

Whatever that link is just sends my browser into a loop.

It’s just a tweet from Elon Musk, that Ian “hilariously” calls the next VP”, stating exactly what is the quote on Ians post.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I agree, it’s a very strange system in the US, to have a “president elect” wait over 2 months before they assume power……

Leaving the incumbent free to wreak havoc should they desire.

If they need time to “transition” fine, but there should be limitations on the legislation or executive orders they can produce during that time.

It is considered proper that you don't make dramatic changes during the 'lame duck' session. Same after the mid-terms. Although these democratic norms tend to break down in America these days.

That said existing bills and smaller ones do tend to pass. This one is about a spending deal so the Government doesn't shut down. It's crazy to say that shouldn't pass. Government needs to function still.

[ianch99]

Some illumination of the impact of "President-elect Musk"

President Musk? The DOGE leader's government-shutdown push shows how he'll wield power in Washington

After a government funding bill went down in flames on Wednesday, lawmakers in both parties were in agreement about one thing: Elon Musk played a huge role in bringing Washington to the brink.

"Yesterday was DOGE in action and it was the most refreshing thing I've seen since I've been here for 4 years," Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia wrote on X.

"The leader of the GOP is Elon Musk," Democratic Rep. Brendan Boyle of Pennsylvania wrote. "He's now calling the shots."

Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee, released a fact sheet about "what Elon will cost your state" that said "President-Elect Musk's" opposition to the government funding bill had also derailed disaster-relief funds.

"It is dangerous for House Republicans to have folded to the demands of the richest man on the planet, who nobody elected, after leaders in both parties came to an agreement to fund the government and provide this disaster aid," DeLauro said in a statement. "There was no need for a government shutdown."

Did I mention that Musk was dangerous?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Some illumination of the impact of "President-elect Musk"

President Musk? The DOGE leader's government-shutdown push shows how he'll wield power in Washington



Did I mention that Musk was dangerous?

And the threat of shutdown hasn't occurred before now?
List of actual US shutdowns, although some for a short period of time.

They'll probably avoid it but this time I guess the Democrats don't care as much. There will be a core of Republicans opposed to it but usually the rest of the GOP ally with the Democrats and get it passed. This time given it's Musk/Trump pushing for it and the Dems are already on their way out so why bother helping? If this is what Musk wants then give to him.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by nomadking

And the threat of shutdown hasn't occurred before now?
List of actual US shutdowns, although some for a short period of time.

So missing the point ...

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Just to frame how mad the new power behind Trumps throne is:

Backlash builds as Elon Musk endorses Germany’s far right

Elon Musk is backing the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), triggering an outcry in Berlin in the run-up to a critical snap election.

“Only the AfD can save Germany,” the billionaire X owner wrote on the platform on Friday in the latest of a series of endorsements of European far-right parties.

Musk has recently supported European populist-right politicians in increasingly clear terms, including Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and Reform UK leader Nigel Farage. Earlier this week, Farage boasted that Musk is “right behind” him — and raised the prospect that the tech tycoon would financially back his Reform UK party.

You know, the AfD, those nice folk who think that the Nazi's weren't all that bad.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Some illumination of the impact of "President-elect Musk"

President Musk? The DOGE leader's government-shutdown push shows how he'll wield power in Washington



Did I mention that Musk was dangerous?

Why’s he dangerous?

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Originally Posted by nomadking

And the threat of shutdown hasn't occurred before now?
List of actual US shutdowns, although some for a short period of time.

They’ve happened loads of times, and always used a bargaining chip.

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Originally Posted by ianch99

So missing the point ...

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Just to frame how mad the new power behind Trumps throne is:

Backlash builds as Elon Musk endorses Germany’s far right



You know, the AfD, those nice folk who think that the Nazi's weren't all that bad.

Well, plenty of leftists sing the praises of communism.

The right is rising because the left is failing, rather than look at them, look at yourself. (Not you personally)

It’s a shame our general election timetabled when it did, if Starmer and Co had come in after Boris quit in 2023, we’d only have 2-3 years of Labour and they’d be gone.