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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Which one are you referring to. 1) decided by a court . 2) if he didn't know why on earth not , if he did my point stands 
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You decide, you’re making this up as you go along. Using rationale you’re better off criticising them for what they have done rather than something they haven’t done but you think they “might” do.
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04-12-2024, 10:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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You decide, you’re making this up as you go along. Using rationale you’re better off criticising them for what they have done rather than something they haven’t done but you think they “might” do.
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04-12-2024, 23:18
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Pretty sure the Tories regarded as "wets" were all binned by BJ…
Anyway, Thatcher’s not been in power for over 34 years - pretty sure most of the Tory MPs who stood in the 2024 Election wouldn’t have been MPs when she was in power…
Amusing you think people like Redwood, Jenkins, Patel, Badenoch, Rees-Mogg, Truss, Kwarteng, Steve Baker, Buckland, Coffey, Philip Davies, Liam Fox, Fabricant, Gillis, etc. are "wets" - says more about you than them… 
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Not all of them, obviously. I was talking about Rishi’s supporters.
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05-12-2024, 01:44
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Surprised no one’s talking about Idiot Starmer misleading the House yesterday during PMQ, referencing Boris & Rishi having convictions, a FPN isn’t a conviction dumb ass, & he was a Director of public prosecutions?
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05-12-2024, 03:40
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Well personally I dont ever listen to PMQ's, I'm never that bored.
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05-12-2024, 08:39
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Not all of them, obviously. I was talking about Rishi’s supporters.
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Fun fact - 11 MPs in the Conservative Party under Rishi Sunak were MPs when Thatcher was in Office, and of those, pretty sure Bill Cash, Edward Leigh, David Davis, John Redwood, & Roger Gale could not be described in any way, shape, or form as “Thatcher’s Wets"…
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Surprised no one’s talking about Idiot Starmer misleading the House yesterday during PMQ, referencing Boris & Rishi having convictions, a FPN isn’t a conviction dumb ass, & he was a Director of public prosecutions?
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It'll probably just get swept under the carpet because it isn't the tories
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05-12-2024, 17:38
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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It'll probably just get swept under the carpet because it isn't the tories
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Please remember , this the labour party , they can do no wrong.  look at how well Wales is doing
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Kemi Badenoch slams Starmer at PMQs for having a “cabinet of trade union stooges, CV embellishers and an actual fraudster”. Surely not
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05-12-2024, 18:01
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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It'll probably just get swept under the carpet because it isn't the tories
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Probably the fact that after 14 years of Tory rule standing up in the chamber and misrepresenting things isn't noteworthy.
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05-12-2024, 18:18
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Fun fact - 11 MPs in the Conservative Party under Rishi Sunak were MPs when Thatcher was in Office, and of those, pretty sure Bill Cash, Edward Leigh, David Davis, John Redwood, & Roger Gale could not be described in any way, shape, or form as “Thatcher’s Wets"… 
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Of course they are not 'wets'. They may have served in the Conservative Party while in government, but they were not admirers of Rishi.
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Probably the fact that after 14 years of Tory rule standing up in the chamber and misrepresenting things isn't noteworthy.
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05-12-2024, 18:29
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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And if you think the outgoing Tory party was "left", I can see why you have a bridge…
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They were a bunch of Maggie Thatcher’s ‘wets’. No wonder people are turning to Farage.
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Of course they are not 'wets'. They may have served in the Conservative Party while in government, but they were not admirers of Rishi.
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Can you explain to me how, if only 11 Tory MPs in the last Conservative Administration were also MPs during Thatcher’s time in power, and nearly half of those were not ‘wets’, how the other 360 Conservative MPs were ”Thatcher’s wets"?
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05-12-2024, 19:34
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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It'll probably just get swept under the carpet because it isn't the tories
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Loving the equating of the incorrect use of a thesaurus with trashing the country
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05-12-2024, 23:09
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Can you explain to me how, if only 11 Tory MPs in the last Conservative Administration were also MPs during Thatcher’s time in power, and nearly half of those were not ‘wets’, how the other 360 Conservative MPs were ”Thatcher’s wets"?
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Your reputation for pedantry knows no bounds.
I am describing Rishi’s supporters as the type of people whom Thatcher would have described as ‘wets’.
But you knew that, didn’t you?
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06-12-2024, 08:26
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Your reputation for pedantry knows no bounds.
I am describing Rishi’s supporters as the type of people whom Thatcher would have described as ‘wets’.
But you knew that, didn’t you?
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Thank you - that means so much coming from someone like you…
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06-12-2024, 09:22
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Probably the fact that after 14 years of Tory rule standing up in the chamber and misrepresenting things isn't noteworthy.
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This. The Tories have simply normalised lying and misrepresentation. Starmer should at least try to set an example by going against that way of thinking but as the stage had been set for him many years ago then he’s just going along with what we’ve become used to.
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