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					Originally Posted by nomadking  Things "not adding up" seems to be a common theme in the explanation of these stories coming out. Rayner, Reeves, Haigh.Probably best for any Labour MP to stay on the backbenches, in order to avoid too much scrutiny.
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			Commons  is no place for lawbreakers,  send them to the Lords! Or follow  the prime minister and don't do what  I say , and i,ll just ignore  it. Will he ask her to resign her seat ,  no chance
		 
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		|  01-12-2024, 08:00 | #184 |  
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					Originally Posted by Itshim  Commons  is no place for lawbreakers,  send them to the Lords! Or follow  the prime minister and don't do what  I say , and i,ll just ignore  it. Will he ask her to resign her seat ,  no chance |  Erm…she has resigned
		 
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Erm…she has resigned |  Only as Minister, not as MP.
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		|  01-12-2024, 09:45 | #186 |  
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					Originally Posted by nomadking  Only as Minister, not as MP. |  Ah right. Well that’s not the done thing is it? The Tories set the standard. Apologise, step down from the cabinet for a few months (but not as an MP) then pop back up when it all blows over. Them’s the rules now!
		 
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			I think the commons can  be a place for people with a criminal conviction but it should be known by the voters and also spent. If you're breaking the law when you're an MP then you should be out obviously.
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 Such a move could obliterate the Conservative Party as the main challenger to Labour before Kemi Badenoch, the new leader of the opposition, has made her mark.
 
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Elon Musk has more than enough money to completely dominate UK politics which usually doesn't spend anywhere near the levels they're used to in the US. It'll be pocket money for him. It will completely dwarf all the other parties where a couple of million is the typical 'massive' donation. Reform would be Man City to Labour/Tories Norwich city. |  Just shows how dangerous Musk is. No one show have that much wealth with all the power & entitlement that comes with it. You can seen how he helped buy the US presidency for Trump. 
 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  we could call it "the only people that ian aproves of can donate to the parties ian aproves of bill " |  I do think only UK citizens should be able to donate. That's why he is going to work around it but using Twitter's UK business to do it - if he does.
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					Originally Posted by Damien  I do think only UK citizens should be able to donate. That's why he is going to work around it but using Twitter's UK business to do it - if he does. |  he could just apply for citizenship, is there any actual proof about this alleged donation?
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		|  01-12-2024, 13:06 | #193 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  he could just apply for citizenship, is there any actual proof about this alleged donation? |  No, the article is saying that some Tories and businessmen fear it's going to happen. They're not saying what they know as how likely it is.
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Just shows how dangerous Musk is. No one show have that much wealth with all the power & entitlement that comes with it. You can seen how he helped buy the US presidency for Trump. 
 We should have a law that donations to UK political parties (over a certain amount) can only come from UK citizens.
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Typical of you to want our last hope of salvation from establishment politicians whom the people have rejected silenced once and for all. 
 
There will be a massive political swing rightwards at the next General Election if Labour doesn’t ban democracy by then. The right-minded people of this country have had enough.
 
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