President Trump 2.0

[papa smurf]

The thing about politics is you need the right kind of nutters behind you,just look at our government.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

indeed, he was quite naive in his first term, he won't make the same mistakes 2nd time around.

Don't do this to me, Pierre!

[ianch99]

The Russian have said the quiet bit out aloud. No surprises though ...

Putin Aide Issues Ominous Warning About Trump’s New “Obligations”

“To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations,” Patrushev told the business daily Kommersant in response to a question about whether the outcome of the presidential election would bode well for Russia. “As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.”

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Don't hold much hope for a cease fire I gaza and Lebanon either, not with Rubio and Huckerbee in post.

Not until Hamas have been destroyed

https://youtu.be/qtY3yf4v9aw?si=TMlLK7_kBDRq8Nsv

I think that’s clear.

[Mr K]

There are a few decent people left in the US. Dick van Dyke is still alive!. Well done sir. Cor blimey Mary Poppins etc.... Don't blame him if he calls it a day now.

Legendary actor Dick Van Dyke has reacted in disdain to Donald Trump’s second-term presidential win after previously endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris.

The Mary Poppins star, who turns 99 next month, was recently out and about with his 52-year-old wife, Arlene Silver, when he was approached by a reporter and asked if he thought the future looked bright for America.
I hope you’re right,” Dyke can be heard telling the reporter in a clip published by The Daily Mail.

When asked if he thinks Trump is capable of making America great again, the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang actor quipped: “Fortunately, I won’t be around to experience the four years.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2646460.html

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

There are a few decent people left in the US. Dick van Dyke is still alive!. Well done sir. Cor blimey Mary Poppins etc.... Don't blame him if he calls it a day now.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2646460.html

Make Diagnosis…….murder, Great again.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Not until Hamas have been destroyed

https://youtu.be/qtY3yf4v9aw?si=TMlLK7_kBDRq8Nsv

I think that’s clear.

Oh yeah it's clear, Huckerbee doesn't even recognise the West Bank as a place

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Very objective.

About as objective as naming someone accused of sex trafficking as attorney general and thus meaning a highly critical report by the house ethics committee about his drug taking and under age sex that was going to be released with in a week is now not going to be, drain the swamp he's hiring directly from the worst depths of it

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Putin can now pop the Champagne he has had on ice ... and Zelensky is frantically looking for those old Soviet manuals on how to build nukes.

Looks like he may have found them:

Zelensky’s nuclear option: Ukraine ‘months away’ from bomb

Kyiv could rapidly develop a rudimentary weapon similar to that dropped on Nagasaki in 1945 to stop Russia if the US cuts military aid

[jfman]

Zelensky is truly going for “rogue state” status with that threat. The Americans have toppled one democratically elected government in Ukraine and Zelensky’s term has expired. It shouldn’t be too hard for the CIA to inject a dose of ye olde freedom and democracy if required.

Originally Posted by jfman

Zelensky is truly going for “rogue state” status with that threat. The Americans have toppled one democratically elected government in Ukraine

You know you can keep repeating that as often as you like without it ever actually becoming true.

and Zelensky’s term has expired. It shouldn’t be too hard for the CIA to inject a dose of ye olde freedom and democracy if required.

… and it’s in no way unusual for a country under existential threat to suspend elections. Though I agree, Trump and his cabal are just as adept at parroting Putin’s talking points as you are, and might, suitably motivated, feel obliged to help put them in practice, against the will of the people of Ukraine.

The UK also kept suspending elections during WW2. (or, for the pedantic, the European part of WW2)

When you're facing an existential threat then that is the entire focus of the country.

[jfman]

These things can all be true at once. If the Trump administration decides he’s not legitimate, and he’s threatening to build a dirty bomb, that ends one way.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

These things can all be true at once. If the Trump administration decides he’s not legitimate, and he’s threatening to build a dirty bomb, that ends one way.

Lots of dead Russians ?

A couple of shovel fulls of chateux de chernobyl dumped over a city would spice it up

Originally Posted by jfman

These things can all be true at once. If the Trump administration decides he’s not legitimate, and he’s threatening to build a dirty bomb, that ends one way.

True, but you’re making assumptions about Trump’s likely response in Ukraine that are untethered from the things Trump has already said. He wants to decouple himself from expensive international distractions that cost America money (leave aside whether that’s a sound analysis on his part for the moment).

I agree that a rational US administration modelled on almost any one of those that has held power since WW2 might well attempt to remove Zelensky rather than allow nuclear proliferation in the dead zone between Nato and Russia, but your problem is right there in the word ‘rational’. Trump isn’t a 4D chess player. He’s a narcissist. He does the next thing that has something in it for Trump. If he asks someone to plan an intervention against Ukraine’s interests he will be confronted with more follow-up questions than he could ever be bothered to think about, starting with the explicit support for Ukraine across Europe and the presence of more than one western power’s special forces in-country.

And if they did decide to go for it, let’s not even get started on the logistics - Russia has had operatives infiltrated across Ukrainian society who look and talk like Ukrainians and yet they haven’t managed to whack him in more than 2 years. I can’t see the Americans getting anywhere near him.