President Trump 2.0

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chris

No - he is civilly liable for sexual assault due to the statute of limitations on criminal charges in that case. But he is a convicted felon (criminal) on 34 charges of falsifying business records arising from his failed attempt to cover up hush-money payments to a porn star. There was nothing bogus or flimsy in any of that.

We’re going over old ground. “Civilly” convicted ….yes, With a very dubious victim, decades after the fact, that is on record as saying “rape is sexy”. I wouldn’t describe it as safe.

The 34 misdemeanours that were wrapped up into fictitious felony, that nobody understands.

Look, he is not a particularly good man in certain respects, but he also not the devil incarnate, and these charges would never have been brought against him had he disappeared from the political stage after 2020, which makes them politically motivated by definition.

Going forward, he will do no jail time or anything else. No doubt these charges will be levied against him by the Democratic propagandist MSM all the time but it’s pointless, as for these next four years he’s pretty much untouchable and free to do whatever he wants as he doesn’t carry the weight of seeking reelection. He can leave that to Vance and DeSantis.

I really believe the world will be a safer place for the next 4 years and I also think that Vance or DeSantis will be president in 2028. I think we could be entering a period of a strong america and global stability.

Or it could all turn to shit.

But I hope the former.

---------- Post added at 20:30 ---------- Previous post was at 20:23 ----------

Originally Posted by Chris

Or maybe they’re (I’m) just answering a simple technical point made by another forum member who doesn’t understand which of Trump’s court dealings are civil, and which are criminal?

Or maybe, Civilly or criminally, we can see that they’re both bollocks.

Let’s talk about Hunter Biden’s laptop…….where the story was not about HB’s coke fuelled orgies with hookers….who cares go for it, have fun.

No, the real story was the cash for access to the Vice-President……of which there was a lot, a hell of a lot. The Vice-President and current president was and is corrupt, to a level Trump would be proud of, even humbled by.

Harris conceding on stage now having phoned Trump earlier to do so over the phone.

[thenry]

She's full? Of poo. Build an empire Kamala.

[Pierre]

Well we won’t be seeing her again.

It is exciting what the democrats will respond with.

The age of Pelosi, Schumer and Obama is over. The democrats should free themselves of those chains.

I don’t think they’ll win 2028, I think barring an economic disaster, Vance or DeSantis will continue but the opportunity is there for a new Democratic party to rise.

[papa smurf]

That speech from harris was just waffle,what the hell was she on about

[thenry]

Karmas a beep. Her speech was her campaign pointing four fingers back at her.

Not much-added value in a concession speech other than to concede. Doesn't really matter what else she says and she won't be running again.

---------- Post added at 22:19 ---------- Previous post was at 22:15 ----------

Originally Posted by Pierre

The age of Pelosi, Schumer and Obama is over. The democrats should free themselves of those chains.

I don’t think they’ll win 2028, I think barring an economic disaster, Vance or DeSantis will continue but the opportunity is there for a new Democratic party to rise.

Obama will be around for a while. He is a former President so will important for the party and is an asset on the campaign trail.

I think 2028 will be interesting because they won't be running against Trump and it's not a given the Trump coalition can be taken up by someone else. The Republicans won't have an incumbent running so it's really all up for grabs. They will be helped if the 4 years go well for them of course.

Originally Posted by Damien

The Republicans won't have an incumbent running so it's really all up for grabs.

Wait til you find out what JD and his pals are planning …

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Maggy

They didn't want a woman as president.

Ya that would be strange if she indeed won........

I wonder if it was stolen this time? -- I mean its amazing he got in with all thats going on with him.......

My dad said "We have a felon in the white house" earlier..........

Originally Posted by Chris

Wait til you find out what JD and his pals are planning …

Whatever you do, don’t mention the 25th Amendment!

I’m going to say it. I told you so.

Originally Posted by Mick

Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.

[vincerooney]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well we won’t be seeing her again.

It is exciting what the democrats will respond with.

The age of Pelosi, Schumer and Obama is over. The democrats should free themselves of those chains.

I don’t think they’ll win 2028, I think barring an economic disaster, Vance or DeSantis will continue but the opportunity is there for a new Democratic party to rise.

Don't you think both parties will have to renew themselves.

DeSantis isn't really MAGA and Vance i dont think will be strong enough to as a candidate for presidency. Lets be honest being a vice president doesn't make much impact! Mike Johnson is completely out of his depth. Steve Scalise is nearly 60. Trump can't run again. McConnell is half dead.

What will the republican party do? Will trump allow himself to run again? or will MAGA continue with Donald JR? Or will MAGA have poisoned itself by 2028?

I'm fascinated by that. Trump wasnt doing overly great by the time the pandemic came in terms of ticking off his pre election targets e.g the wall wasnt built, obama care was still there. The pandemic gave him an excuse and then gave him an excuse to attack Biden and co for the economy which was destined to be struggling post pandemic/post russian war.

Will the republican party just be absorbed and destroyed by MAGA and lose all connection to the "grand old party" or will it regenerate back to traditional republican roots?

2028 seems intriging and its about 2 years until the candidates will need to reveal themselves!

If i was to guess it'd be desantis vs Newsom a case of classic republican versus a new era democratic. but knowing how US politics they wont get anywhere near the candidacy!

Originally Posted by Mick

I’m going to say it. I told you so.

No, you didn’t … you hoped it was so. The race was too close to call and there were enough conflicting metrics flying around to be able to select the ones that suited either case. Based on everything that occurred in the last 48 hours, what you did was win a coin toss.

[papa smurf]

Guardian Offers Free Counselling to Staff After Trump Win


https://order-order.com/2024/11/07/g...yees.%E2%80%9D

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by vincerooney

Don't you think both parties will have to renew themselves.

DeSantis isn't really MAGA and Vance i dont think will be strong enough to as a candidate for presidency. Lets be honest being a vice president doesn't make much impact! Mike Johnson is completely out of his depth. Steve Scalise is nearly 60. Trump can't run again. McConnell is half dead.

What will the republican party do? Will trump allow himself to run again? or will MAGA continue with Donald JR? Or will MAGA have poisoned itself by 2028?

It will all depend on the state of the economy and if they've managed to dial back on the identity politics.

The republicans and the dems are switching places slowly, as the parties have here. The dems are no the party of the liberal middle classes and elites, they nom longer represent the working class.

Trump and Vance now resonate with that demographic....but they also have to win over the old GOP base as well.

It will also be interesting to see how the US MSM handle this result. Can't blame Russia this time.