Smart Meters and Tariffs

[SnoopZ]

Tracker and Agile not looking good tomorrow.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Tracker and Agile not looking good tomorrow.

It's the first time i have seen it that high. When you look at the NESO app you can see why.

https://www.neso.energy/energy-101/g...y-energy-stats

I had my new meters installed on Saturday and they were all up and running by this morning.

My Mini is not connecting but i will call them tomorrow. It might need resetting to the new Mpan number

Renewables have been poor this week, especially yesterday ;



Wind power etc is all very well when its available, but its also highly unstable/unreliable.

Without our gas power generation (and 0.9 GW of imports) we would have been in the shite yesterday (and many other days).

We are a long way from being able to get rid of it.

Nuclear power is the only long-term viable solution. In the next 10 years we should see small scale reactors built by Rolls Royce starting to pop up. You need 7 of them to produce as much electricity as the new one at Hinckley Point will, but they are much cheaper and faster to build because they smaller and modular in design.

[downquark1]

How bad does it have to get before they declare a saving session?

[Taf]

There's been a bit of chat all around about us being asked not to use so much power during "peak periods". Up to now, the carrot has been used to reward us for moving our usage to other times, but the menace of a large stick is looming with higher charges (if you are on a smart meter) during peak periods.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Taf

There's been a bit of chat all around about us being asked not to use so much power during "peak periods". Up to now, the carrot has been used to reward us for moving our usage to other times, but the menace of a large stick is looming with higher charges (if you are on a smart meter) during peak periods.

Smart meters never been for the customer's benefit. A bit like VM's 360 box in that respect.

Call it an 'upgrade', call it progress, give away flashy smart meter displays, and the punters will suck it up and profits increase.

Any 'upgrade' that seemingly costs nothing, beware.

Originally Posted by downquark1

How bad does it have to get before they declare a saving session?

Never.

Saving sessions are when they have too much renewable and need you to use it up, often around 1pm in the afternoon.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Smart meters never been for the customer's benefit. A bit like VM's 360 box in that respect.

Call it an 'upgrade', call it progress, give away flashy smart meter displays, and the punters will suck it up and profits increase.

Any 'upgrade' that seemingly costs nothing, beware.

That statement has no basis in fact - the Utility companies were forced, by Government, to roll out Smart Meters and were fined if they didn’t meet the Government targets.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

That statement has no basis in fact - the Utility companies were forced, by Government, to roll out Smart Meters and were fined if they didn’t meet the Government targets.

Hugh don't go destroying a good old rant with facts.

[SnoopZ]

On Tracker and it'll be 27.4 tomorrow when the SVP is 25.21, it's never been this high.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Paul

Never.

Saving sessions are when they have too much renewable and need you to use it up, often around 1pm in the afternoon.

No, they also have an inverse thing to the spending session where you are paid to use LESS electricity than normal.

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

On Tracker and it'll be 27.4 tomorrow when the SVP is 25.21, it's never been this high.

Remember the SVP is based on attempting to average the year using predictions, so there will be days where the tracker is worse (just hopefully not many of them).

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by downquark1

No, they also have an inverse thing to the spending session where you are paid to use LESS electricity than normal.

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Remember the SVP is based on attempting to average the year using predictions, so there will be days where the tracker is worse (just hopefully not many of them).

It's never been 26 let alone 27.4, like you say hopefully not many of them.

Originally Posted by downquark1

No, they also have an inverse thing to the spending session where you are paid to use LESS electricity than normal.

I've not come across those in my time at Octopus, but I looked it up and they do indeed seem to happen (or at least they did).

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

On Tracker and it'll be 27.4 tomorrow when the SVP is 25.21, it's never been this high.

SVP ? Do you mean SVT ?

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These are a bad few days, but I looked up the historic rates and the same hapened in November & December last year (and a few in October, which didnt really happen this year). Overall, the few pence more I'm paying on these days is more than offset by my savings on the other days, so while its always irritating to be paying more for a few days, I'm not concerned atm. In the last week, I have paid 73p more across 3 days, and £1.39 less over the other 4 days, so still 56p better off overall.

[Taf]

Yet another email from Scottish Power trying to get me to accept a smart meter.