Conservative Leadership Contest 2024

[thenry]

Voted other, Larry the cat

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by thenry

Voted other, Larry the cat

purrrrrfect

[ianch99]

Badenoch wins

Indeed she has, should be interesting times.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Dave42

over 40 thousand tories didn't even vote

Nobody would let them out of the care homes to do so.

Originally Posted by Dave42

over 40 thousand tories didn't even vote

Not sure what your point is ? People often dont vote in elections, of any kind.

Millions didnt vote in the general election, over 250,000 didnt vote in the labour leader election.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Paul

Not sure what your point is ? People often dont vote in elections, of any kind.

Millions didnt vote in the general election, over 250,000 didnt vote in the labour leader election.

just thought the none votes would be lower but as you rightly point out always people that dont vote in elections

Party electorates are always very small and unrepresentative. That's why I would prefer that when the party in Government needs to change its leader, it is done only by their elected MPs rather than members. MPs have a greater mandate to decide the next PM than self-selecting party obsessives.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Damien

Party electorates are always very small and unrepresentative. That's why I would prefer that when the party in Government needs to change its leader, it is done only by their elected MPs rather than members. MPs have a greater mandate to decide the next PM than self-selecting party obsessives.

well said

Originally Posted by Dave42

well said

Indeed. It also is more respectful of parliamentary convention which is that the individual the monarch is advised to invite to become PM should be the one most likely to have the confidence of the house. It is inherently unstable (as well as dishonest) if the individual chosen does not really have the support of their own back benchers, and they are only playing along until enough of them can get a coup going.

Originally Posted by Damien

That's why I would prefer that when the party in Government needs to change its leader, it is done only by their elected MPs rather than members.

The Consertatives are not in Government atm though, nor were Labour when they chose their last leader.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Paul

Indeed she has, should be interesting times.

She studied computer science at Sussex uni so there's a brain there. With logic she'll take two tier Keir apart.

Originally Posted by Paul

The Consertatives are not in Government atm though, nor were Labour when they chose their last leader.

On the other hand, Boris Johnson, Teresa May, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak were all chosen while in government.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

She studied computer science at Sussex uni so there's a brain there. With logic she'll take two tier Keir apart.

She’s a clear and confident orator as well. She’ll make a good leader of the opposition. Doesn’t make her a shoo-in to win an election 4 years from now though; Michael Howard was a great performer against Tony Blair, but no beans.

Originally Posted by Paul

The Consertatives are not in Government atm though, nor were Labour when they chose their last leader.

Yeah but if you're not in Government then the voters get to decide to make you PM. So that's fine.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

She studied computer science at Sussex uni so there's a brain there. With logic she'll take two tier Keir apart.

Only because she couldn’t get into Warwick, as her grades weren’t good enough…

Leeds Uni - 15th in Times Higher Education (THE) best Universities in U.K., 123rd in World Universities Ranking, member of the Russell Group, & Starmer graduated with a 1st in Law, then did a PG Bachelor of Civil Law degree at Oxford.

Sussex Uni - 26th in Times Higher Education best Universities in U.K., in the 201-250 section in World Universities Ranking, not a member of the Russell Group, & graduated with a ?? (couldn’t find her grade anywhere) in Computer Systems Engineering degree, then did a PG MEng at Sussex. (tbf, she then gained her LLB from Birkbeck whilst working, so that shows a good work ethic).

It’s a lot harder to achieve being accepted into a Post-Grad course at Oxford if you went elsewhere for your first degree, than it is to be accepted to continue your studies at the same place you did your degree.

Oxford is 1st in the World University Rankings, Birkbeck is in the 301-350th section, and Oxford is 7th in the THE Law ratings, whilst Birkbeck is in the 126-150th section

Not sure your assertion is sound, based on that information…