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			Carers Allowance to rise to equal 16 hours of the National Minimum Wage.  
 
16 x £12.21 = £195.36 ? £195.36 x 52 = £10,158.72 pa. ??? 
 
It is presently £4,258.80 pa. 
 
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			30-10-2024, 14:53
			
			
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			It's going to cost the worker. 
 
My (very) quick calculations are that a small business employing someone on minimum wage for a 37.5 hour week will have to find another £998.65 per year to fund the wage increase and employers NI increase. 
 
Imagine how much the NI increase is going to cost for larger employers. Just the reduction of the £9100 threshold to £5000 itself will cost the business £492 for every employee. 
 
Ultimately it's going to cost employees, it will result in lower wage rises and lower down the wage chain it will cost jobs. 
 
Now I'm part time at least the NI increase is only going to cost me around £1200 per year Ouch.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-10-2024, 16:08
			
			
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				I was wrong about this! They won't extend the freeze beyond the already announced one until 2028. 
 
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 This was the so called budget "rabbit out of the hat".  
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			30-10-2024, 17:47
			
			
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				Carers Allowance to rise to equal 16 hours of the National Minimum Wage.  
 
16 x £12.21 = £195.36 ? £195.36 x 52 = £10,158.72 pa. ??? 
 
It is presently £4,258.80 pa. 
 
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  So Carers allowance won't rise, but the amount they can earn does rise.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-10-2024, 17:51
			
			
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			I had a quick read of the main points on the BBC site, there dont seem to be any personal tax rises. 
Indirectly, I expect prices of goods & services will rise due to increased business costs (mostly NI changes). 
Since prices rise anyway, it may be hard to tell how much more they have gone up than they would have otherwise. 
 
Overall, it doesnt seem as bad (for me anyway) as I had expected.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				It's going to cost the worker. 
 
My (very) quick calculations are that a small business employing someone on minimum wage for a 37.5 hour week will have to find another £998.65 per year to fund the wage increase and employers NI increase. 
 
Imagine how much the NI increase is going to cost for larger employers. Just the reduction of the £9100 threshold to £5000 itself will cost the business £492 for every employee. 
 
Ultimately it's going to cost employees, it will result in lower wage rises and lower down the wage chain it will cost jobs. 
 
Now I'm part time at least the NI increase is only going to cost me around £1200 per year Ouch. 
			
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				I had a quick read of the main points on the BBC site, there dont seem to be any personal tax rises. 
Indirectly, I expect prices of goods & services will rise due to increased business costs (mostly NI changes). 
Since prices rise anyway, it may be hard to tell how much more they have gone up than they would have otherwise. 
 
Overall, it doesnt seem as bad (for me anyway) as I had expected. 
			
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			The minimum wage going up might feed to prices but I think that would have happened anyway.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Don't worry , Richard,  will tell businesses we're to find another money  tree    remember we the customer aren't the source  of the monies, that are given to everyone.    
			
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 Quite, it's not attractive to new businesses and I fail to see how this fits with their manifesto promise of being business friendly and their claims of growing the economy. It looks like their real plan is to have us in a recession. 
 
One local small business I visit has three employees and the owner has been telling me he's been struggling to stay afloat. I believe what he says, when he says what he earns himself some weeks which is less than the minimum wage. He says he often earns less than his employees, but I guess the lefties just consider him as a business owner to be a capitalist pig.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Kwasi Kwarteng has admitted Reeves is cleaning up the tory mess in the i paper it behind a paywall so not linking it
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Don't worry , Richard,  will tell businesses we're to find another money  tree    remember we the customer aren't the source  of the monies, that are given to everyone.    
			
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				Isn't this the essential problem here: we have so many people who feel that they should not contribute, in a proportionate way, to help repair the damage to the country and its services that the last 15 years inflicted.
  
			
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