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Old 21-08-2024, 09:55   #991
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Re: The future of television

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The regular contributors who continually bitch about what I say regarding the future of TV are slaves to the schedules
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The BBC is preparing for a streaming only schedule
But is it linear, OB
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Old 21-08-2024, 13:21   #992
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Re: The future of television

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadg...ing-heres-why/

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The Future Of Television Is Broadcast & Streaming: Here’s Why

… According to a CivicScience survey, in-home traditional or digital antennas are the fastest growing method viewers are using to watch television today. Presently, 30% of U.S. adults use an antenna, which enables U.S. households to receive over-the-air transmitted by local stations at no cost. The survey found that 17% of households say they use their antenna “often”. Usage is more prevalent with millennials (age 25-to-44). In addition, since 2009 when digital transmissions replaced analog, broadcast stations groups have launched dozens of over-the-air digital multicast networks (a.k.a. “diginets”) that can be accessed via digital antennas. A high-quality digital antenna can cost less than $100…

…Industry analyst Bill Harvey believes that the impending death of linear TV has been greatly exaggerated, and points out that many of the highest rated streaming shows first appeared on broadcast or cable. He quotes a Nielsen Gauge article which says “The 6 billion minutes Young Sheldon garnered in May 2024 were split almost exactly in half between traditional linear channels and streaming. Its success on linear TV fed its success on streaming platforms, and vice versa. This is the way in which the programmers who stay ahead of the puck will rebuild an even stronger television business by coordinating all of the delivery paths,”

Harvey adds, “Streaming is not competing with linear; it’s extending the reach of linear…
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Old 21-08-2024, 15:51   #993
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Re: The future of television

Exactly. Broadcast is the shop window. A chunk of people will watch live, or near-live, and those who catch on to a new series weeks late can get it via streaming.
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Old 21-08-2024, 16:25   #994
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Re: The future of television

My wife frequently watches episode 1 of something on broadcast then immediately watches the rest of them on demand
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Re: The future of television

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They never will be, Andrew. Heads are buried much too far in the sand. There’s no hope for them, no reasoning for them. Just that repetitive DeGaulle ‘No’ response.
I really would stop worrying about the future of TV too much OB. Streaming or otherwise, does it matter?

The future of the NHS maybe does, or climate change, or whether you've put the bins out? ( because Mrs OB certainly won't have done it )
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Old 21-08-2024, 23:56   #996
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I really would stop worrying about the future of TV too much OB. Streaming or otherwise, does it matter?
No, it doesn’t. It’s a mystery why the usual suspects get so exercised about it. All I did was to say what I thought would happen. Then all this….
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Old 22-08-2024, 01:15   #997
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I prefer to record my programmes rather than stream them as streaming services have expiry dates and sometimes don't have subtitles. They also don't have QuickView (though as Virgin are phasing this out, this is now a moot point),

I had hoped that if linear TV channels ended up being streamed instead of the traditional way, that the technology would allow us to continue recording them.

However, i've now discovered that ITV and (from the 27th) the BBC are to limit what you have recorded onto your hard drive to what's available via VOD if you receive your TV signal over the Internet on EE or BT TV.

I'm sure that this will be rolled out to other platforms and by other broadcasters for any devices with a recording facility (though the new Sky & Virgin streaming boxes don't have recording facilities anyway).

There's the usual spin about how TV is evolving and how it will benefit the consumer. How, exactly? If you record something not available on VOD, you won't be able to watch it. If it expires, you'll no longer be able to watch it.

I suspect that you'll no longer be able to FF through adverts on the commercial channels on your own recordings too.

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Old 22-08-2024, 01:50   #998
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Re: The future of television

I have not seen any streaming services for a while that do not offer subtitles. I'm sure it is a requirement now. Heck the iplayer sometimes adds sign language options for show now. It's all about accessibility for everyone.

Sky and Virgin main tv boxes still have the ability to record. The only ones that don't are their new streaming boxes they offer.
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No, it doesn’t. It’s a mystery why the usual suspects get so exercised about it. All I did was to say what I thought would happen. Then all this….
If only there was a way to confirm who gets most exercised about the subject, aside from your dissertation/diatribe night before last.

Oh wait, there is.
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No, it doesn’t. It’s a mystery why the usual suspects get so exercised about it. All I did was to say what I thought would happen. Then all this….
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I have not seen any streaming services for a while that do not offer subtitles. I'm sure it is a requirement now. Heck the iplayer sometimes adds sign language options for show now. It's all about accessibility for everyone.

Sky and Virgin main tv boxes still have the ability to record. The only ones that don't are their new streaming boxes they offer.
That's good Re: subtitles.

I suspect that any systems that still allow recordings will eventually adopt this system though.

This will mean that we will have gone full circle to the days when viewers had no way to avoid the adverts being played out (unless they pay) and to a situation where TV channels control what is watched, only this time they will be able to harvest and possibly sell our data.

Perhaps it will also be used to detect TV Licence evasion too??
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If only there was a way to confirm who gets most exercised about the subject, aside from your dissertation/diatribe night before last.

Oh wait, there is.
Given you're second on that list, by a mile, not really sure what your point is ?
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Given you're second on that list, by a mile, not really sure what your point is ?
My point is that OB’s claim of indifference doesn’t stack up. Evidenced by the multiple threads he’s generated on the same subject, and the tendency for many threads to be sidetracked by it being the reason for this one as Chris explains in post #1.
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All I did was to say what I thought would happen. Then all this….
I posted my opinions on a discussion forum and people started discussing them
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Very meta…
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