03-07-2024, 20:16
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President Biden
Well, this is only going to get messy. Out on the campaign with Kamala today with no intention of dropping out.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ection-updates
(I thought since this might run and run it worth it's own thread)
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03-07-2024, 20:22
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Re: President Biden
At this point I simply have to confess I don’t know well enough how to read American politics. If this were the UK then “I’m not resigning” would be the final stage of grief before accepting the inevitable and stepping down.
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03-07-2024, 20:23
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Re: President Biden
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He's still better than the alternative on offer. Mind you so would Jimmy Krankie be. How on earth can't there be better candidates in a country of 342 million?
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03-07-2024, 20:32
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Re: President Biden
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Originally Posted by Chris
At this point I simply have to confess I don’t know well enough how to read American politics. If this were the UK then “I’m not resigning” would be the final stage of grief before accepting the inevitable and stepping down.
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I hadn't considered this but I guess we are in a situation completely without precedent. Our parties have clearly defined processes to oust a leader, and for a Cabinet Minister the jump or be pushed is usually the nudge required.
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03-07-2024, 20:53
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Re: President Biden
It was clear the DNC pooped their pants after the last debate, the fear that the game was up was palpable.
Harris would never get the nomination for the top job, but she’s been groomed to go along with it. She’s been offered that when Biden finally expires in year or two, she’ll get the top job.
The question is, who’s calling the shots?
Is the current presidency Obama’s third term? Or Jill Biden’s 1st?
Either Harris will continue to be an Obama puppet, or Jill has told her it’s the only way she’ll be president.
How long will the concoction of drugs they’re giving Biden to get through these appearances keep working?
On a debate stage, without a teleprompter he has nothing to keep his train of thought on track and that was very evident last time out. He almost shut down at the first hurdle before he was rescued buy the host.
Tomorrow they go again under the same rules, no audience (as that could distract and disorientate him), strict cutting of mics (so they can’t get into a back and forth discussion that could confuse him).
Biden’s team moved these debates forward, well forward, from when they usually happen. They’re both still presumptive nominees. It was moved forward because of concerns of what condition Biden would be in, in Sept/Oct.
There’s another debate tomorrow, it will be somewhat overshadowed by events here but probably more interesting. He’ll probably get through as they’ll up whatever dose he’s on.
I don’t see how makes it another five months, I really don’t.
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03-07-2024, 21:04
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Re: President Biden
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Originally Posted by Pierre
There’s another debate tomorrow, it will be somewhat overshadowed by events here but probably more interesting. He’ll probably get through as they’ll up whatever dose he’s on.
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If there? I thought there was only one more, in September.
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03-07-2024, 21:21
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Re: President Biden
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Originally Posted by Pierre
It was clear the DNC pooped their pants after the last debate, the fear that the game was up was palpable.
Harris would never get the nomination for the top job, but she’s been groomed to go along with it. She’s been offered that when Biden finally expires in year or two, she’ll get the top job.
The question is, who’s calling the shots?
Is the current presidency Obama’s third term? Or Jill Biden’s 1st?
Either Harris will continue to be an Obama puppet, or Jill has told her it’s the only way she’ll be president.
How long will the concoction of drugs they’re giving Biden to get through these appearances keep working?
On a debate stage, without a teleprompter he has nothing to keep his train of thought on track and that was very evident last time out. He almost shut down at the first hurdle before he was rescued buy the host.
Tomorrow they go again under the same rules, no audience (as that could distract and disorientate him), strict cutting of mics (so they can’t get into a back and forth discussion that could confuse him).
Biden’s team moved these debates forward, well forward, from when they usually happen. They’re both still presumptive nominees. It was moved forward because of concerns of what condition Biden would be in, in Sept/Oct.
There’s another debate tomorrow, it will be somewhat overshadowed by events here but probably more interesting. He’ll probably get through as they’ll up whatever dose he’s on.
I don’t see how makes it another five months, I really don’t.
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03-07-2024, 21:49
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Re: President Biden
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If there? I thought there was only one more, in September.
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Sorry, you’re quite correct. I was listening to a podcast a couple of days ago referring to the upcoming debate, which was actually the debate just gone, as I was several days behind.
Based on that. I don’t think he’ll make the next debate.
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You really are drinking deeply of the Fox News/Sky News Australia/Washington Examiner Kool-Aid...
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You think Biden’s calling the shots?
Obama said it himself.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ob...ting-work.html
After you’ve watched that……..is it beyond the realms of possibility……….I think not.
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03-07-2024, 22:16
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Re: President Biden
The first rule of conspiracy club is "you don’t tell everyone about it on a major broadcast TV show"…
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03-07-2024, 22:19
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Re: President Biden
If in his words, he is unable to debate anything, then discussions of policy with his staff just become something where he accepts what he is told, ie he's a puppet.
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03-07-2024, 22:21
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Re: President Biden
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Originally Posted by nomadking
If in his words, he is unable to debate anything, then discussions of policy with his staff just become something where he accepts what he is told, ie he's a puppet.
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Where did Biden state he is unable to debate anything?
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03-07-2024, 22:23
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Re: President Biden
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The first rule of conspiracy club is "you don’t tell everyone about it on a major broadcast TV show"…
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Or you do, that way nobody suspects you 
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03-07-2024, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Chris
At this point I simply have to confess I don’t know well enough how to read American politics. If this were the UK then “I’m not resigning” would be the final stage of grief before accepting the inevitable and stepping down.
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I gotta give him credit if he is gonna try and stay in!!
With how bad things are,why would anyone want it??
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03-07-2024, 22:34
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: President Biden
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The first rule of conspiracy club is "you don’t tell everyone about it on a major broadcast TV show"…
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Well he might have joked about it, but then what if the opportunity actually presented itself?
Anyway, like I say, who do you think it calling the shots?
Because it isn’t Joe, and if you think it is, I doubt your stories of military intelligence in Germany during the 80’s, because I would expect that would need a level of critical thought and i don’t think anyone, anyone with a brain, believes Joe Biden is in charge of that administration.
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03-07-2024, 22:40
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Re: President Biden
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Where did Biden state he is unable to debate anything?
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Biden acknowledged the weak performance while giving a much more animated speech in North Carolina on Friday, saying, “I know I’m not a young man. I don’t walk as easily as I used to. I don’t talk as smoothly as I used to. I don’t debate as well as I used to,
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