28-05-2024, 13:51
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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And?
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You said
‘ instead of increasing the higher rate.’
How can it be done instead of increasing the higher rate ? When there is already a higher rate after the complete loss of the personal tax allowance ?
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28-05-2024, 14:34
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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You said
‘ instead of increasing the higher rate.’
How can it be done instead of increasing the higher rate ? When there is already a higher rate after the complete loss of the personal tax allowance ?
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There are many different ways they could have raised this revenue. They could have increased the higher rate. They could have increased the additional rate. They could have done any combination thereof. Instead they chose an ideological route which creates a marginal tax rate of 60%.
But, so far, that is irrelevant to this election campaign.
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28-05-2024, 14:54
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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There are many different ways they could have raised this revenue. They could have increased the higher rate. They could have increased the additional rate. They could have done any combination thereof. Instead they chose an ideological route which creates a marginal tax rate of 60%.
But, so far, that is irrelevant to this election campaign.
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Not according to Hunt it’s not 
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28-05-2024, 17:03
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
No further Police action in Angela Rayner police investigation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69063295
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28-05-2024, 17:10
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
Not really a surprise. They had already looked into this and decided there was no criminal matter and have come to the same conclusion again. I think there should be questions about the decision to reopen it after being lobbied by a Tory MP. Nobody thought it would go anywhere but it allowed them to get a few headlines of her being investigated.
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28-05-2024, 17:26
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
This is the second time a police inquiry into Labour launched at the behest of the Tories has gone nowhere.
If that was us doing that we would get a caution at least.
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28-05-2024, 17:40
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
To be honest it's better we have this situation.
It would be worse if she did do something but the police didn't want to investigate because it would look bad. It's in the public interest that politicians are more likely to be investigated over such things than we would.
You want to have confidence that it was an independent decision based on this 'new' evidence rather than pressure from a Tory MP.
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28-05-2024, 17:51
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
First Westminster voting intention from the campaign period by Survation.
https://www.survation.com/survations...mpaign-period/
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LAB 47 (-1)
CON 24 (-3)
LD 11 (+3)
GRN 3 (+1)
RFM 8 (-)
SNP 3 (-)
OTH 4 (-)
F/w 24th - 27th May. Changes vs. 22nd May 2024.
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28-05-2024, 17:55
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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28-05-2024, 18:06
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
The Tories and Guido are hyping a big poll to come.
But so far we've had three that show no change or movement to Labour.
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28-05-2024, 18:08
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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The Tories and Guido are hyping a big poll to come.
But so far we've had three that show no change or movement to Labour.
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Is that this one by Redfield & Wilton Strategies. 
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies....5-27-may-2024/
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2024 GENERAL ELECTION MEGA POLL!
12,000 Sample.
Labour leads by 23%.
Westminster Voting Intention (25-27 May):
Labour 46% (+1)
Conservative 23% (–)
Reform UK 13% (+1)
Lib Dem 9% (-1)
Green 5% (–)
SNP 3% (+1)
Other 3% (+2)
Changes +/- 19 May
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28-05-2024, 19:03
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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https://x.com/redfieldwilton/status/...WUFx9lsEXWlOa1
In 2019, the Conservatives won 60% of the 65+ age group.
Mega-oooooooff!
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28-05-2024, 19:11
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
Meanwhile, back in the Land of Total Bolleaux (AKA CCHQ Election campaign)
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28-05-2024, 19:24
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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That just seems to show Labour and Conservative sticking as they are and Reform UK and the LibDems swopping places.
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28-05-2024, 20:41
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
Guido is soiling himself with excitement at a JL Partners (who?) poll that shows Labour’s lead tightening to 12 points, as the Tories seemingly claw back age 65+ voters from Reform.
https://order-order.com/2024/05/28/p...nly-12-points/
Given the whopping size of Labour’s lead in many other polls conducted by companies that repeat their polling much more often, I think this is likely to be what they call an outlier …
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