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Originally Posted by Stephen

Disney didn't force anything. RTD also wanted this to be season 1 as its a new beginning for the show.

If you believe that nonsense, I have a "leaning tower" to sell you.
Disney wanted it, to put firmly put their mark on the fact they are bank rolling it now.

Originally Posted by Stephen

It's a fresh new era. Just like 2005 was seris 1.

Its no more of a new era than than the previous changes of Doctor.
Starting back at series 1 (in 2005) was debatable, but it was a clear relaunch after 16 years (excluding the film) so widely accepted. This is just a continuation of the current show, with a new doctor, if they started at one again everytime that happened, we'd be on our 14th/15th/16th Season 1 by now - there is simply no justification for starting back at Season 1 again.

I doubt I'll see any of them until next weekend at the earliest, so far, mixed reviews/responses from people I know who have watched them.

[Stephen]

Disney have no direct control over the series, or the content of it. RTD is firmly in control as showrunner and his production company Bad Wolf making it at their studios. First time the BBC have let a third party produce the show.

Disney get to make suggestions but as has been stated one more than one occasion by RTD and his team. They are only suggestions he he doesn't have to implement anything. Disney did indeed contribute to the budget by buying the international streaming rights to the show. Doesn't give them any control over writing, directing or any content. Production is firmly under Bad Wolf.

It was more than just another series though. New team running it, new international streaming partner, RTD is back, New Doctor and Companion and also a slight New direction with the idea of fantasy being a big influence. Also the doctor himself is refreshed with all his past trauma and issues being left with 14 to deal with

Calling it series 1 is just marketing. Disney doesn’t want it to look like a ton of stuff is missing from its catalogue, and it suits the BBC to make it look like the thing has had a brand refresh. Though there can be little doubt that the desire for clear season/episode numbering on Disney+ is where the idea originated.

Also less offputting to newbies. No one wants to start a show at season 16.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Damien

Also less offputting to newbies. No one wants to start a show at season 16.

Isn't it season 14?

Or if going on original numbering season 40.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Disney have no direct control over the series, or the content of it. RTD is firmly in control as showrunner and his production company Bad Wolf making it at their studios. First time the BBC have let a third party produce the show.

Disney get to make suggestions but as has been stated one more than one occasion by RTD and his team. They are only suggestions he he doesn't have to implement anything. Disney did indeed contribute to the budget by buying the international streaming rights to the show. Doesn't give them any control over writing, directing or any content. Production is firmly under Bad Wolf.

It was more than just another series though. New team running it, new international streaming partner, RTD is back, New Doctor and Companion and also a slight New direction with the idea of fantasy being a big influence. Also the doctor himself is refreshed with all his past trauma and issues being left with 14 to deal with

Watch episode 1 watchable, just seen 2 for me a load of rubbish have 3 recorded if no better ,for me , won't bother with it again and I recall William hartnell as the doctor

Moffat wrote tonight’s and it was as excellent as you would expect from him. It also helps that the chemistry between Gibson and Gatwa is genuine and powerful.

Originally Posted by Paul

I havent watched either of them yet, which is a sign of how bad its become.
There was a time when myself and my wife would always make sure we could watch it as it aired.
Jodie almost killed that off completely, and RTDs woke nosense over xmas was the final nail in the coffin.

We'll get round to watching them eventually, but we have other shows to catch up on first.

I will not be bothering with it anymore, its turned into complete drivel.

As I mentioned, myself and my wife used to love it, and make sure we always watched it.
I asked her tonight, she just said no, after the xmas nonsense, she wasnt bothered anymore.

That was a slight surprise, but I decided to give EP1 a chance myself -- I gave up after about 20 minutes.

First you had Ruby entering the TARDIS and making no mention at all of it being bigger on the inside - seriously ? its the first and most obvious thing anyone notices.

Then you have Gatwa, I dont know if thats his normal way of talking, or put on for the show, but it just bugs me.

Then its another story about babies (hopefully no singing trolls this time).
How many times can you say "space babies" in the space of 15 minutes - a lot it seemed.

I stopped at the point of them blowing their noses, just nonesense, not even funny.

After Jodi, I thought it could only get better, esp with the help of Tennant to revive it.
I was wrong, it got worse, to the point I've lost interest, something I would never have imagined years ago.

[Stephen]

I think the bigger on the inside has been done to death so glad this dropped that. Though in the Christmas episode you saw her enter then leave and walk round it.

The babies thing seems to be a theme and knowing Russell will be part of the finale reveal, with Ruby's mum and being a foundling like the Doctor.

Boom(Moffats episode) was brilliant. A surprise appearance from the actress set to play the new series 2 companion also.

Clearly something building with the actress that has appeared as a background actor in every episode so far.

First episodes of RTD are usually silly fun.

The actress who has appeared in every episode so far is called Susan Twist. Seriously - that’s her actual name. She’s obviously the Bad Wolf of this series in one way or another but for RTD to cast someone whose name may turn out to be the reveal takes meta to a whole other realm.

[Stephen]

Even that song title from Devils Chord was there is always a twist at the end.

They wouldn't be that obvious, would they? I think she will be related to the pantheon of gods that was mentioned a couple of times now and clearly Toymaker and Maestro are part of them and whatever their plan is.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Even that song title from Devils Chord was there is always a twist at the end.

They wouldn't be that obvious, would they? I think she will be related to the pantheon of gods that was mentioned a couple of times now and clearly Toymaker and Maestro are part of them and whatever their plan is.

Really doubt I will be watching it to find out

[Dude111]

I would love to see the first Doctor who again!!

That guy did the best I think at being the Doctor!!

[Saul's Grandad]

Originally Posted by Dude111

I would love to see the first Doctor who again!!

That guy did the best I think at being the Doctor!!

Kind of tricky as William Hartnell died in 1975. However, he has been played by David Bradley in the drama/doc about the early years of Who (An Adventure in Time and Space). Bradley also appeared as The First Doctor in three episodes of the show itself.

David Bradley is now 82 himself, so probably not likely to ever play him again.