The Chronicles of Rishi

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Elections might be won or lost in the centre ground but none of Britain’s problems are solved there.

I agree again, keep going JF we’ll be having lunch before you know it.

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Originally Posted by ianch99

In latest polling, the 20% think the Tories are very right wing, 26% think fairly right wing and 14% slightly right of centre. Pretty damning figures.

The Tories are supposed to be a right wing party. 100% of the polling should convey that.

The fact that only 60% of those polled think that the Tories are right wing………..

don't forget, they can solve all their problems by lurching further to the right as "they haven’t been right wing enough"

Makes my point for me, cheers

Originally Posted by Paul

Labour has its own issues atm.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-68707225

This, apparently, after another 11 quit in Burnley a few months ago.

Mostly around Gaza it seems. Although worth keeping in perspective Labour have over 6,000 councillors.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I agree again, keep going JF we’ll be having lunch before you know it.

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The Tories are supposed to be a right wing party. 100% of the polling should convey that.

The fact that only 60% of those polled think that the Tories are right wing………..



Makes my point for me, cheers

The graph from the link shows that people think that the Conservatives are right of centre, it’s the varying extent of how right that has changed..

From the link…



And as for the people who thought that the Conservatives are "fairly left wing" or "left of centre", that probably says more about them* than the Conservatives…



*UKIP’ers or Reform Party "members", who think anyone to the left of Richard Tice is a Commie

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The graph from the link shows that people think that the Conservatives are right of centre, it’s the varying extent of how right that has changed..

I was just responding to what was posted.

And as for the people who thought that the Conservatives are "fairly left wing" or "left of centre", that probably says more about them* than the Conservatives…

*UKIP’ers or Reform Party "members", who think anyone to the left of Richard Tice is a Commie

I’m sure Ian appreciates you wiping his arse for him.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The graph from the link shows that people think that the Conservatives are right of centre, it’s the varying extent of how right that has changed..

From the link…



And as for the people who thought that the Conservatives are "fairly left wing" or "left of centre", that probably says more about them* than the Conservatives…



*UKIP’ers or Reform Party "members", who think anyone to the left of Richard Tice is a Commie

Thanks for the clarification Hugh.

I think that historically the Tories would be categorised by most people as "centre-right" i.e. leaning to the right of the political spectrum but closer to the centre. It is only in recent years that they have moved solidly into the "right-wing" and, it seems, intend to keep going.

But not fast enough for some…

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Thanks for the clarification Hugh.

I think that historically the Tories would be categorised by most people as "centre-right" i.e. leaning to the right of the political spectrum but closer to the centre. It is only in recent years that they have moved solidly into the "right-wing" and, it seems, intend to keep going.

If they do that, then as Labour found with Corbyn, they will find themselves in opposition.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But not fast enough for some…

Indeed

[1andrew1]

Another one bites the dust

A Conservative MP has been suspended by the parliamentary party while it investigates newspaper claims he misused campaign funds.

Mark Menzies is alleged to have used thousands of pounds given by donors to fund medical expenses and to have made a late-night call to an elderly aide asking for help because he had been locked up by "bad people" demanding money for his release, according to The Times.

The MP for Fylde in Lancashire, who is one of Rishi Sunak's trade envoys, disputes the allegations but the Conservative Party said it is taking them "seriously" and "will always investigate matters put to them".

The party's chief whip Simon Hart is said to have been made aware of the claims in January, when the former campaign manager reported what had happened.

However, a decision to remove the whip was taken last night.

https://news.sky.com/story/mark-menz...laims-13116735

[jfman]

Given the level on general incompetence and corruption in the Conservative Party it’d not be hard to see how Government could be compromised or collapsed by nefarious actors.

[peanut]

Rishi Sunak’s satisfaction falls to equal worst ever Ipsos rating for a Conservative or Labour leader

Net satisfaction with Rishi Sunak is now at joint worst levels in history of Ipsos, equivalent to John Major and Jeremy Corbyn’s worst ratings in 1994 and 2019.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/rishi-su...-labour-leader

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by peanut

Rishi Sunak’s satisfaction falls to equal worst ever Ipsos rating for a Conservative or Labour leader

Net satisfaction with Rishi Sunak is now at joint worst levels in history of Ipsos, equivalent to John Major and Jeremy Corbyn’s worst ratings in 1994 and 2019.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/rishi-su...-labour-leader

Sunak's legacy will be the Opposition-supported smoking ban which many of his own MPs did not vote for. I guess that's better than Johnson's which was to shave 5% off our GDP and 100% off the UK's credibility in good governance.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Sunak's legacy will be the Opposition-supported smoking ban which many of his own MPs did not vote for..

The police will thank him for opening, or should i say expanding, a whole new market of illegal goods.

we truly live in an era, where we are governed by imbeciles.

I'm sure that in 10 years time, the countries shop keepers will be equally grateful they have to differentiate between a 24 year old and a 25 year old.

They cant even tell a 25 year old from an 18 year old these days, so they have to have the stupid "challange 25".

[mrmistoffelees]

Pretty sure the tories this morning announced the abandonment of their spring flights to Rwanda pledge.

Add another failure to the pile