The Chronicles of Rishi

[Sephiroth]

I doubt it'll ever stop.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/red-...nors-1.1085500

LONDON LETTER/Rachel Donnelly: Awkward questions are again being asked about Labour's big money donors. The suspicion, which began in the early days of the Blair government with the Formula One affair, that industry figures waive their chequebooks and eventually secure special treatment has been revived.

Not only did the scene of Labour's first scandal come back to haunt them this week with fresh claims about Number 10's involvement with the Formula One boss in 1997 but the question of state funding for political parties is back on the political agenda.

Mr Blair is reportedly unconvinced of the argument for state funding. But on Monday two of his most senior colleagues, the Deputy Prime Minister, Mr John Prescott, and the Home Secretary, Mr David Blunkett, gave state funding their support after what some commentators described as Labour's "damaging entanglement" with several business donors over the past few months.

The charge at Labour's door - that government contracts and favourable treatment for big business follows on from donations to the Labour Party - returned at the weekend after it was revealed that drugs company, Powderject, had won a contract to supply the NHS with 20 million smallpox vaccines following a £500,000 donation to Labour from Powderject's boss, Mr Paul Drayson.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I doubt it'll ever stop.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/red-...nors-1.1085500

Only went back 22 years to find this It is not that both sides have some dodgy donors, it is the amount of them on the Tory side. Let's be honest that is how the Tory funding model works. It is not just money, it is power & influence. Look at the PPE corruption scandal, they did it in plain sight with no real comeback (as yet).

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I doubt it'll ever stop.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/red-...nors-1.1085500

Your attempt at justification rather than condemnation speaks volumes about you as a person.

Had a Muslim/islamic donor made those comments about your beloved John Redwood you would be screaming from the rooftops about extremism

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Your attempt at justification rather than condemnation speaks volumes about you as a person.

Had a Muslim/islamic donor made those comments about your beloved John Redwood you would be screaming from the rooftops about extremism

Thanks for the personal attack. I was only providing balance.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Thanks for the personal attack. I was only providing balance.

Comparing something that occurred a quarter of a century ago to things that persistently happened over the past 4 years is hardly “balance”.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Russ

Comparing something that occurred a quarter of a century ago to things that persistently happened over the past 4 years is hardly “balance”.

It is when Labour was the previous government. As I said in my post:,

I doubt it'll ever stop

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Thanks for the personal attack. I was only providing balance.

Statement of fact not a personal attack, tell me I’m wrong ?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Statement of fact not a personal attack, tell me I’m wrong ?

Obviously wrong and obviously nasty.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Obviously wrong and obviously nasty.

So why not state that ? Rather than your first attempt being justification ?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So why not state that ? Rather than your first attempt being justification ?

Instead of nitpicking, you should recognise the point I'm making. Both parties reward their benefactors. Always have done, always will do.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It is when Labour was the previous government. As I said in my post:,

Let’s have another go.

How many of the Labour government you speak of are still in frontline politics?

How many of the **** party from 4 years ago are still in frontline politics?

Once you’ve compared the numbers *then* you’ll understand how that was a very poor analogy.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Russ

Let’s have another go.

How many of the Labour government you speak of are still in frontline politics?

How many of the **** party from 4 years ago are still in frontline politics?

Once you’ve compared the numbers *then* you’ll understand how that was a very poor analogy.

It's an institutional fact of politics. Everywhere.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It's an institutional fact of politics. Everywhere.

Ok, let’s see you back up your suggestion of Labour corruption with verifiable and established evidence.

Please don’t ask me to do the same of the **** party. It would be painfully embarrassing for their fans.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Russ

Ok, let’s see you back up your suggestion of Labour corruption with verifiable and established evidence.

Please don’t ask me to do the same of the **** party. It would be painfully embarrassing for their fans.

I've already provided the info regarding the Blair government period.

You know as well as I what politics and politicians are like with regard to patronage.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I've already provided the info regarding the Blair government period.

You know as well as I what politics and politicians are like with regard to patronage.

Here we go again, with the old "everyone knows" Alleged Certainty fallacy…