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					Originally Posted by Stephen  Ouch, truth hurts eh. 
 Neither of those two should be in charge of the USA. Biden is the lesser of the two evils. Biden may be an old man but at least he speaks truth and doesn't spout utter drivel that has no relevance to the real world and is only real in Trump's mind.
 |  Remember when tfg had the UN in hysterics with his nonsense about how fabulous his regime was. It does make me laugh that those two are the best America has to offer, an octogenarian and an orangutan (who is almost an octogenarian)
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					Originally Posted by Mick  Utter TDS nonsense. 
Worlds gone to shit under Biden & you wish that pathetic Biden, zombie walking disgrace to rule 4 more years, you are utterly crazy. More fool you.
 
A liberal judge rules means Jack shit to me, big bloody deal. Banana republic those NY judges. Hard left liberal State!
 
As for the rest of your TDS post.    Yawn Chris, tell it to some one who cares, I certainly don’t. |  Mick … seriously.  You sound like you care quite a lot.
 
As it happens I think the Dems are absolutely nuts for putting an octogenarian with obvious mental decline up for re-election, but mostly because that says awful things about the state of that party and makes a Trump victory more likely.  In the round, however, America is screwed whichever way it goes.  It needs to take a good look at itself and ask why it thinks gerontocracy is such a good thing anyway (it isn’t).
 
As for the rest of it … I’m sorry but if you’ve been drinking at the deep state, everything’s politicised, Q-Anon conspiracy waterhole, then there’s nothing more here which we can reasonably discuss.  You have, as they say, clearly been on the Kool-Aid.
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 Neither of those two should be in charge of the USA. Biden is the lesser of the two evils. Biden may be an old man but at least he speaks truth and doesn't spout utter drivel that has no relevance to the real world and is only real in Trump's mind.
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Just “orange man bad” mantra, all over again.
 
And Biden speaks truth, in what universe as all he does is babble? 
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 As it happens I think the Dems are absolutely nuts for putting an octogenarian with obvious mental decline up for re-election, but mostly because that says awful things about the state of that party and makes a Trump victory more likely.  In the round, however, America is screwed whichever way it goes.  It needs to take a good look at itself and ask why it thinks gerontocracy is such a good thing anyway (it isn’t).
 
 As for the rest of it … I’m sorry but if you’ve been drinking at the deep state, everything’s politicised, Q-Anon conspiracy waterhole, then there’s nothing more here which we can reasonably discuss.  You have, as they say, clearly been on the Kool-Aid.
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					Originally Posted by Mick  What truth?Just “orange man bad” mantra, all over again.
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			"Puting" aside his colour, his lies and his sexual crimes, the real problem is that he is Putin's useful idiot. NATO is at real risk if he gets a second term plus Putin will be emboldened making attacks on the Baltic countries & Moldova far more likely. 
 The world will be a far more dangerous place with him as President.
 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  "Puting" aside his colour, his lies and his sexual crimes, the real problem is that he is Putin's useful idiot. NATO is at real risk if he gets a second term plus Putin will be emboldened making attacks on the Baltic countries & Moldova far more likely. 
 The world will be a far more dangerous place with him as President.
 |  Perhaps  it's time for "Europe " looked after its self instead  of wanting  the USA to hold its hand. Just can't vote for Biden  given his vp , so looks like a no hoper or Trump will get my vote . Always say if you don't vote don't complain    
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		|  06-03-2024, 20:14 | #503 |  
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					Originally Posted by Itshim  Perhaps  it's time for "Europe " looked after its self instead  of wanting  the USA to hold its hand. Just can't vote for Biden  given his vp , so looks like a no hoper or Trump will get my vote . Always say if you don't vote don't complain   |  The USA was very keen on NATO being a buffer between the USA and the Soviet Union during the 40 odd years of the Cold War, and NATO rallied to the US’s invocation of Article 5 after 9/11.
		 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  "Puting" aside his colour, his lies and his sexual crimes, the real problem is that he is Putin's useful idiot. NATO is at real risk if he gets a second term plus Putin will be emboldened making attacks on the Baltic countries & Moldova far more likely. 
 The world will be a far more dangerous place with him as President.
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However, I’m inclined to think Trump will be Navalnied before he ever takes office second time. The court system is too contentious and tens of millions will reject it anyway.
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					Originally Posted by jfman  It’d be a safer place for the Ukrainian conscripts being sacrificed on the front line.
 However, I’m inclined to think Trump will be Navalnied before he ever takes office second time. The court system is too contentious and tens of millions will reject it anyway.
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Re your second point, I think it would be pretty audacious of Putin to murder another politician so soon, especially one who admires him so much…
		 
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		|  06-03-2024, 22:22 | #507 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  You.don't put down an obedient pet dog unless it bites you.   |  I think he means by an agency closer to home.  Many of them have been well and truly bitten by the Donald already.
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					Originally Posted by Chris  I think he means by an agency closer to home.  Many of them have been well and truly bitten by the Donald already. |  My bad. Trump has indeed bitten them. 
 
Could be wrong but don't think discrete assassinations are the US's style.
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		|  06-03-2024, 22:48 | #509 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  My bad. Trump has indeed bitten them. 
 Could be wrong but don't think discrete assassinations are the US's style.
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 Could be wrong but don't think discrete assassinations are the US's style.
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